I currently play retail and classic. I have an ESO, FF and GW2 account. I still don’t understand how RDF stops people from talking. I talk all the time and have a wonderful time playing the game. I currently LOVE mythic plus and a long time high level PVPer. I enjoy all aspects of the game. I haven’t used LFR very often, but glad I did when I needed it. Alts, coming back after a long time away for work etc.
I have played since launch, I love pretty much every aspect of this game except for gold buying, botting, GDKP, and looking for group for hours etc.
I don’t have the answers, if the issues this company faces were easy, Blizzard would have fixed them already. QoL features brought to the game over years of lessons learned should be implemented IMO.
Without RDF, a lot of groups will want to form specific comps of classes depending on what’s meta. There will always be a meta. A lot of grps in TBC wouldn’t want to bring a boomkin or rogue for example.
honestly i tend to think that these folk blaming rdf for no talking are probably chatting a mile a minute on their own discord while they post in chat about how rdf killed talking in game.
I sincerely respect people’s view of not wanting to use RDF. That’s your view. But I don’t think it’s valid to exclude everyone from using it when you can perfectly well make your own group without it if you want.
I am anti-rdf but socialization isn’t the hill I plan on dying on.
I did a handful of pug speed-runs on my druid in nexus and the most conversation I had was reminding the tank to reapply Righteous Fury and tell the newer dps to jump on last boss to remove the debuff.
I think I was the only person to say anything for at least 6 hours. Which was reminding people to buff or not to do something stupid.
Great points on toxicity. I actually stopped wow for three seasons in shadowlands due to the toxic community. For example, I finally get my wife to play with me, and she gets so much grief as a new player it’s disgusting. I came back after the social contract was implemented. Games like ESO are doing it right. The guild system is amazing, the community is so good. Every toxic player I have met in those games came from wow. Wow is just a better game IMO.
In my view, the best social interaction you can get is by finding a good guild. Make the extra social leap of talking to people in disc lol. I’ve developed a lot of relationships that actually persist and matter that way rather than in the open world.
Those expansions, although I liked them, weren’t very good. Look at Legion, then watch the fall for BFA and SL. Legion might be my favorite expansion or a close second to Wrath.
Legion had a decent content release schedule that kept engagement solid. I would say that Legion was a solid expansion, I would only change how the random Legendarys worked.
Legion was the last expansion I played, the drop system in Legendarys lead me to play the alt with the best Legendary combination versus the class I wanted to play due to how powerful they were.
The Legendary belt and ring dropped for my shadow priest and I ended up just making that my main since I could 90%+ parse in crap gear.
Would you care to elaborate on how it destroys social interaction? Because just saying it doesn’t mean it is true. And just a fair warning it isn’t true at all. The game promoting different ways of access to content does not destroy social interactions. But you know what destroys social interactions? Having some less geared, or fewer hardcore players getting avoided to every group and never experiencing the game. Therefore never interacting with anyone else.
And? Again people are in the dungeon to do what? To do the dungeon. Most of the people are using LFG channel to just chat globally with some LFG stuff thrown in. How is that better than RDF? How is flying to the dungeon or better yet being one of the ones that just get a summon better than RDF?
LFG tool is just a waste of time entirely. Out of the 10 or so chats that I see right now on my server in LFG channel, 2 of them are actually looking for more for their group.
Satisfactorily answering your query would take a really long time but to put it plainly, automatically matching you with other players has shown in history to cause toxicity, antisociality, and ninjas (less reputation damage from doing bad server things).
Seeing as you agree that hardily anyone speaks in RDF systems on Retail AND FFXIV.
New World, for every terrible fault that game had very fun dungeons because of proximity voice chat. You’ll find soon that humans are a social species, even if their goal is to make money at work or have fun in a virtual MMO.
LFG has many problems. I prefer LFG not because I don’t care about it’s problems, but because the alternative - Random Dungeon Finder - is undoubtedly worse for a social game.
Need/greed is not a system that is prone to have ninja looters in it. Thats master loot and the LFG system can be abused much more than RDF can in that regard.
How if no one is talking to each other? Sounds like a good peaceful time to me as long as others arent running off and pulling on their own which then your group can vote to kick them.
No it doesnt. Being forced to do anything is a bigger detriment than allowing people to have a choice. You and your friends can already group together with RDF in the game.
Yes it does, more and bigger problems than what RDF actually does. Most of the things you attribute to being issues with RDF is actually much larger issues with LFG.