My hunter is venthyr and I enjoy it.
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I play venthyr and I love it. Hasnât given me any issues in SFO, M+ or PVP(why I initially picked it) in 9.2
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I usually play NF but I have been playing kyrian for the past week and itâs just fine.
<insert line about unless you are pushing high mythics 1-2% doesnt matter anyway>
Right on your level 18? I have also cleared mythic on every raid, but not on this character that was on my main, which is on a different server and character.
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I post on a low level character for the same reason some of your buddies here do⌠I just dink around more on the US account. Imagine losing the argument to the point you have to revert to attacking a forum avatar.
I also love the hypocrisy, since you never care about certain other low level alts⌠The hunter forums never ceases to amaze.
Simply sounds like you just donât like the hunter class and like to make it a point to let everyone know.
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If thatâs your take away you need to brush up on your reading comprehension.
That is a wild take coming from the master of strawman destruction.
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Look up his post history. His issues are well beyond the Hunter sub-forum.
Itâs kind of funny watching you pretend this wasnât proven before. Your selective memory is kinda comical.
I mean thats true, Ghorak. It is already proven what kind of hypocrite he is.
But still, good dunk on him anyway.
Real question: why respond to a person like this instead of ignoring them and letting them yell into the void or disappearing into obscurity?
The back and forth is what these types want and we give it to them becauseâŚâŚ
Well at least I donât have to hide the fact that I never done mythic, but you keep on living in that fantasy.
What did this thread turn into? Sorry for attracting a troll to the thread. I should have just ignored them. Anyway, the point still stands. NF is the best option, and picking anything else is a DPS loss and a waste of time. It doesnât matter what level of play you are at, itâs the truth.
Everyone here backing me up in their own ways (even those who disagree with me) are all cool with me. Thatâs the point of open discussion, hearing all sides and accepting otherâs opinions and thoughts.
Anyway, not much else to say on this topic. Blizzard is unlikely to make any more changes to the set bonus, so I guess Iâll start leveling NF.
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Link your logs
Problem is, they could literally link any logs and we would have no way of knowing if it is them or not.
More importantly: His argument is bad because its bad, not because of how far he did or did not get in the raid. Thats irrelevant to the argument.
Thats likely it. And going by their current genius in âfixesâ, they might try to buff venthyr by nerfing the damage of kill shot.
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The thing is that itâs not that you canât play Venthyr and do well right now. The problem comes about when you get your tier. Right now, without a tier set, they all perform basically the same. But once you have tier and your second legendary, that is when the differences start to appear.
In order to play Venthyr with double legendary (which means your Covenant legendaryâi.e., the one that relies entirely on Kill Shot procs) you have to choose with any given GCD whether you want to use the Kill Shot proc and not make use of that cool Cobra Shot that procâd or use the Cobra shot and lose the chance of another Kill Shot proc. And throw in the mix that the tier generally leans on prioritizing Kill Command, you get the secondary issue that Venthyr has to choose between the empowered Kill Command which also triggers Rylakstalkerâs and your 4-piece on top of the absurdly high crit it carries and using the Kill Shot proc immediately so that you can get another one.
Kyrian has âlessâ of that problem. Theyâll mostly run into trouble with the 2-piece because at that point, if theyâre maintaining Frenzy, which we should assume will have 90%+ uptime at three stacks, theyâll be diving over the crit-cap with Kill Command when their Covenant Ability adds yet more crit on top of the already significant crit we stack to ensure the smoothness of our routine by having plenty of Barbed Shot procs to maintain said Frenzy.
The funny thing is that the change made to the 4-piece, as noted elsewhere is not only not helpful, but actually hurts Night Fae. The problem is that Night Fae BM leans on Dreamweaver. The soulbindâs capstone ability gives a stacking debuff on enemies causing them to take 1% more damage up to three stacks. So if you let stacks drop, youâre literally losing 3% damage just on that failure alone. The duration of the debuff is four seconds. That means in AoE, a Night Fae BM Hunter needs to fire Multishot at least once every three and a bit seconds or lose out on the damage from the debuffâBeast Cleave does not maintain or apply the debuff itself, only the Hunterâs attacks do. As such, for Night Fae, who are otherwise pretty safe from this tier, itâs not even a Quality of Life improvement because to make use of it is literally a DPS loss in AoE on the debuff alone, regardless of the actual damage difference between Multishot and empowered Cobra Shot.
Iâm not sure about Necrolord. I donât know what the best soulbind is there, but if itâs Bonesmith, then I have to wonder if the Mnemonic Enhancer has the same problem as Dreamweaver.
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You make some great points. Right now Venthyr is performing fantastically for me. Itâs doing the work, and the AoE from the legendary is actually keeping me afloat in raid (where Beast Cleave fails to be that great).
BM uses Plague Deviser Marileth as far as I know, at least thatâs what I used when I leveled Necrolord. Probably for the 2% increased damage on the target when you activate Death Chakram.