He purged Stratholme because it was infected by the plague that could have spread to the entire kingdom.
This is a far cry from Sylvanas’ killed all the elves because she wanted to kill hope.
Arthas pre-frostmourne won’t ever hold a candle to what Sylvanas has done so far.
Yeah. A little bit. But oh so tempting.
And Sylvana’s Pre Arthas cant hold a candle to him before he got frostmourn.
Sylvie deserves to be in the maw 100%, she deserves her own hell just like Arthas, He just is a wee bit worse then her.
What kind of an argument is that?
Is Sylvanas still being mind controlled until now?
Because thats the only way that comment could make sense.
Arthas after frostmourne was nothing more than a slave.
Arthas wasn’t mind controlled either, sure he was influenced, and sure his soul was torn to hell by frostmourn…
But we never saw him full on controlled, Look at his words when he destroyed Lordran, he still was in there, he just… didnt feel a damn thing,
Thats not someone mind controlled, thats someone who has had all empathy torn from them, all feeling (or close enough anyways), something that happened to Sylvie too. Heck we know Arthas destroyed Nerzul’s spirit when he donned the helm, so he obviously wasn’t under control then…
You should play WCIII and Wrath. You seem to have missed those.
Well the point is he lost his free will didn’t he?
He couldn’t make proper decisions. How could be fully responsible for those actions then.
Was he responsible for everything that led him there? Of course but not afterwards.
Mal’Ganis told him that the voice he was now hearing was that of the Lich King. However, Arthas replied that voice was instructing him to destroy Mal’Ganis, much to the dreadlord’s surprise. After slaying the dreadlord, Arthas fled into the frozen north, leaving his troops to fend for themselves. Arthas soon lost the last remnants of his sanity.
https://wow.gamepedia.com/Arthas_Menethil
Arthas died in Northrend. Whatever came back was a cruel parody.
Who says he didn’t have free will? He destroyed Ner’zul, a slave couldnt have done that.
I know it gets ripped on alot, but Supernatural did a excellent example of this when Sam lost his soul, with no feelings, he operated on pure ID and Logic, and Arthas’s achions mirror it fairly well.
The line above says he lost sanity. Whatever Arthas was that landed on Northrend was gone by the time he left it.
This is completely different than Sylvanas regaining her free will.
But he didn’t tho. Seriously, play WCIII and go back and do Wrath content. It’ll help out a lot here.
I am quoting lore to you that says he did.
Are you saying its wrong?
But it actually doesn’t say that.
Mal’Ganis told him that the voice he was now hearing was that of the Lich King. However, Arthas replied that voice was instructing him to destroy Mal’Ganis, much to the dreadlord’s surprise. After slaying the dreadlord, Arthas fled into the frozen north, leaving his troops to fend for themselves. Arthas soon lost the last remnants of his sanity.
https://wow.gamepedia.com/Arthas_Menethil
Looks to me that it does.
The guy went insane. He lost his mind. He wasn’t himself anymore.
I’m gonna stick to your logic.
Sylvie had her soul torn out, was tortured, forced to kill her loved ones, destroy her home, ect… what came out, was just as bad as the Arthas that came back. If you can give him a pass from that, you have to apply it to her as well. And in that case, Arthas did more damage while he was Arthas, and again when he came back.
No ones arguing that Sylvie isn’t bad (at least i don’t think so).
Traumatic event.
In WC3 they make a big deal that she has recovered her free will and is no longer being controlled by the lichking.
Arthas has the excuse that the lore goes out of its way to explain how every step of the way he was manipulated until taking up a magic sword that destroyed his mind.
Sylvanas doesn’t have that excuse.
If I am wrong then show that piece of lore that says Sylvanas has lost her marbles and can’t be held responsible for her actions.
Because in every lore since she seems perfectly capable and logical.
After Stratholm. Not before. He still had a grip on his sanity when he decided to slaughter a city, regardless of whether the people he killed were infected or not. Which is also not mind control, nor is it losing your free will.
Undeath has repeatedly been stated to change who you are, changing you into a different being. It’s pain and darkness and rage. So she actually does have an excuse like Arthas’s tho.
Are you seriously putting everything Sylvanas has done to the same level as Stratholm?
And I find it convenient that you say regardless of the plague.
The plague is the literal reason why he did it.
Let 1 city burn or let the whole kingdom become undead.
The decision seems clear.
Frostmourn was a tool specifically designed to destroy Arthas’ mind and make him the general of the forsaken to destroy Azeroth.
That is a far cry from becoming undead makes you do bad things.
Or are you saying Frostmourn = Being raised undead?
No, which is why I didn’t.
I didn’t say he didn’t sack Stratholm because of the plague? I said he killed civilians who weren’t infected?
wut?
Phae, put your glasses back on. You seriously can’t read without them. You see the Arthas article and somehow conclude because he lost his sanity after Stratholm, it must say he was under mental control the entire time. You’re reading posts and coming up with statements that nobody’s saying.
Glasses. On. Now. Also, you should def play WCIII and Wrath.
From what Arthas saw the whole city was infected.
When we enter that dungeon in Caverns of Time we see the place is a complete loss.
Arthas fought more waves of undead than actual innocent humans.
Btw a sack implies plunder. He didn’t plunder.
He lost his sanity after he took up the sword.
I have consistently mentioned he lost his sanity after touching frostmourne which happened in northrend.
Which is what the lore says.
I even linked it.
The irony of you saying that.
But your own quote said it was after Stratholm? And none of it backs up your claim he was mentally controlled?
Glasses on, please.