Argument against TBC ? ANYONE

ROFL that was years ago my man! Keep your silly accusations elsewhere.

Its too early for BC. Will need at least a year of Classic to see where everyone stands.

At this point anyone demanding BC now have too much time on their hands.

The ONLY way iā€™d be remotely ok with BC is if they did it on separate servers. It would make classic obsolete and all of the hard work from classic would mean nothing. I donā€™t see them offing classic like that. Vanilla wow is my fav mmo and iā€™m enjoying classic almost as much as I enjoyed the game 15 yrs ago.

Why would it make classic obsolete? To have servers that progress through the expansions and then reset back to vanilla to let people do it again. And again.

Warning: it may always be a bugged piece of garbage (in your opinion). Meanwhile several million people are playing it (despite your opinion).

Has Blizzard ever promised that Classic would be a ā€œbug-freeā€ version of Vanilla? If they did I missed it. I donā€™t think they promised this.

Vanilla had bugs. Welcome to Vanilla WoW!

You can do that right now in retail WoW. You always could.

IMHO retail at low levels is better than Classic. Same zones, same levels.

Iā€™m an altoholic, so Iā€™ve leveled more than 30 toons in retail (all races, all starter areas more than once). In Classic, I have 6 classes above level 12 (all races, starter areas, 1st and 2d zones).

The ONLY way that Classic is better is that it is crowded: lots of other low-level characters around me, instead of ā€œalmost everyone is 110+ā€.

Yes! UO was the best MMO in history. We also need house space incorporated in future expansion zones.

Take my mob kills my fellow horde mate? Dieā€¦ And I take all your loot.

By comparison, WoW PvP servers are hardcore RP servers. These dudes donā€™t even know what itā€™s like to play a PvP based MMO.

Part of the issue with getting rolled that we have the trash layer system and too many players per server. You get rolled on one layer, you move to another layer. At least people would be able to have a fighting chance to take a town back if everyone were on the same damn layer.
And, as far as getting rolled goes, like many other things, the guard system would need to be tweaked.

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You must like your games extremely easy.

I disagree

If they force the classic servers over to TBC I unsub and never look back.I dont mind them making a TBC dedicated server but leave classic aloneā€¦what you afraid that if they made tbc servers no one would want to go over to play it with you so you have to try and convince them to force classic over to them??? if its such a better game you should have no fear of them making it its own server.

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Lose players or split. I choose the latter.

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Where do you get that:

  1. Iā€™m freaking out
  2. I hate Blizzard
  3. that they wouldnā€™t eventually go all the way to BFA if we keep asking them to add updates to Classic?

I cant wait for you toxic nochangers, classic+ haters and tbc haters to unsub and leave this classic when they announce classic+ or tbc. I am for either.

Even better, i hope they remake WoW like that dude who posts unreal 4 engine remade Stormwind City and Elwynn Forest and Barrens

You mean you havenā€™t seen one you agree with.

Letā€™s be honest here:

TBC started most of the things people hate about WoW now.

The majority of people that think TBC is a good expansion, started in TBC.

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Classic JUST re-released dude, just wait a little before BC servers.

So youā€™re saying that if I start a night elf in retail right now, I will have the exact same story and experience as I would in classic? Cataclysm didnā€™t change the world and quests and story at all? Burning the world tree in BFA didnā€™t change the world or quests at all?? Because thatā€™s what Iā€™m interested in. The lore of the world. The story of the world of Warcraft from beginning to end. Iā€™ve even been playing the old RTS games. So youā€™re saying if I jumped right to retail after this that Iā€™d eat to experience all the lore of every single expansion no changes???

I hated TBC due to the focus and balance around Arena.

Which again is what I want. I want classic to be a stepping stone to retail for people. Away to level a character to retail the slow way one expansion at a time. Then Transfer the character to Retail, and restart the server to do it again.

Or we can just have different servers at different expansions, and Iā€™ll transfer my character around until I reach max level then move on to retail. I donā€™t really care which, but this idea that the only way to give #Nochanges fans what they want is to give no one else what they want is absurd to me. And thatā€™s not a particularly good negotiating tactic.

This guy gets it.

Character copy to TBC when it comes out in a few years.

Classic folks still get Classic, folks who want progression get TBC AND/OR Classic. How is this not the best of both worlds?

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And yet THIS is absurd to me and many othersā€¦Classic and any other expansions that are to be released should be dedicated servers completely closed off from retailā€¦thereā€™s a REASON we donā€™t want to play retail anymore and asked Blizzard for this.

-Citation needed-

I started in Vanilla and LOVED The Burning Crusade.