In my opinion these classes below is what ruins most / a lot of peoples PvP experience for shadowlands season 1
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Arms Warriors - just crazy dmg in 3v3 arena with melee cleaves, damage is too high and just broken
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Ret paladins - Off heals need a nerf, rets offheals are matching of a healers in 2v2 arenas and 3v3 also
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Prot Paladins - In 2v2, prot/dps is litteraly unbeatable because prot provides soo much offheals and dmg its so stupid, tanks should NOT be this OP in arenas.
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Balance Druids: Need a nerf on starsurge dmg, its insane how OP that spell and this classes dmg is in arenas
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Enchance shamans need a slight nerf for damage during burst.
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MM hunters: Still need a slight dmg nerf to Rapid fire/Aim shot
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Windwalker Monks are also overtuned with damage
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Sub rogues are still globaling in arenas with all cds used right of stealth in a stunlock
Certain Covenants for some classes such as Hpalls, MM hunters, Boomys, just needs to be fixed. Arenas should not be this fast phased, all the hight mmr players love it due to their comp flexibility but the middle class players are hating this xpack for arenas so far. I dont see a skill gap in 1 shoting someone within a split second with insane dmg. Either nerf these overpowered classes or buff heals/ other class dps.
At the end of the day by nerfs, i only mean make these overtuned classes les OP but still viable so people can have fun. Its soo frustrating to see these classes mostly melee just blow you up even with your defensives up.
When i say people are dieing with defensives up, this is a 100% fact. Que arenas at the momement and seek for your self.
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Rogues still need to be brought down more
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Well?
Which is it? Do you want Ret Paladins to lose their heals and further the oneshot meta or do you want healing buffed to prevent oneshots?
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have you met fire mage RMPs?
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Enh burst is all they have, you line up defensives/peels around their heavily telegraphed damage and they do absolutely nothing. You nerf that damage and the spec is even more dead. They have weak utility, the worst defensives/gap closers of any melee, the hardest to land CC that comes in the form of a killable totem or hex that can be dispelled by dps classes or death’ by priests, while also being a cast as a melee dps. I could go on but I’m just trying to show that burst is really all this spec has, and if cannot react to them literally pressing 5 globals just to pop their cds in your face, it’s a you problem.
I’m with the ret healing nerf, simply because they heal the same amount as enh shamans, but atleast shamans go oom for it, which loses them access to things like purge, totem drops, etc.
Also with the star surge nerf, spamming 10-12k instant star surges is a meme.
Prot pals just die if you go them so I’m not concerned with their healing really.
Lastly, arms warrior is rather see get a utility nerf than a damage nerf.
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just curious, but how do you heal thru a one-shot?
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arena is very very very fun right now
stop being bad and learn how to play
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By pre-sacing the swap target, taking 20% of the damage yourself and buying time for the heal.
The same way that warriors prevent oneshots with intervene, just not as good.
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that’s not a heal. ret/prot heals are an issue because they have great survivability to begin with, and then they can go los and heal like it was nothing. i cast 3 heals, and i’m oom.
What lol
Once bubble is gone, Ret is probably the one spec in the game that is the most susceptible to oneshots.
Don’t get me wrong, the healing is insanely good and the fact that Blizzard made healing Ret’s primary defense actually annoys the hell out of me–i would give up a good portion of healing for, say, Sacred Shield and Divine Protection any day.
Rets are the de facto targets for any comp, unless there is another class that 100% needs locked down, like Boomkin.
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Actually lold
Those poor souls have been nerfed to the ground
Let’s nerf them some more hahahahaha
They will think twice before even hovering over rogue in the wow character creation
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Clearly a WW main, mentions every high performing spec but that one. MM is not even OP damage, you nerf anything more from hunters (We’ve lost 15% Aimed Shot damage and they gutted Aimed Shot Double Tap), they do terrible damage outside of goes and they are not onesohotting anything.
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Take away the burst an enh has and they’re a dead spec again…
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imagine gauging a class’s damage from their cleave, which btw isnt even close to killing anything at all and gets healed to full within seconds with all the healing thats in the game atm. cleave damage is literally a flex for the meters and does nothing at all.
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The only thing i can agree with is about the prot nerfs. The rest is perfect (except for havoc). PVP is a blast right now.
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leave enh alone ya bully. on the real though, having so much more fun than bfa still even if i do die in secs. been queing with my guildmates that really don’t do arena and still having a blast.
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nice bait you’re tripping
The problem is you ask for nerfs, but you actually lack the knowledge to know why things are broken. Calling for aimed/RF nerfs aren’t why MM is trucking people. It’s double tap and Kyrian arrow every 1min. No MM is killing people outside of that window.
Aimed shot hits for 3k on plate, it’s been hit with 15% worth of nerfs since before the season even started.
These uninformed nerf posts just make the game worse and worse. If you want to give good advice, go play that class and figure out what makes it broken, otherwise it’s misleading.
9/10 it’s literally either a new ability added in shadowlands or a covenant or leggo that makes the class broken. Nerfing baseline classes only makes consistent damage worse and the game goes back to BfA.
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Just save time and say nerf melee. It’s basically all melee except DH lmao.
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