Arena Season 1 NEEDS to be Phase 1

Snowboots-whitemane · February 20, 2021, 12:53am

Arena Season 1 needs to be aligned with Phase 1. The reasoning for this is because of how equal in terms of power Season 1 gear is with Tier 4 gear. The release of Season 2 is aligned with Black Temple (It’s suppose to be aligned with Tier 5. From what I’ve seen or it should be), which means that insanely over powered items will be released with Season 2. Thus resulting in people most likely using few PVP pieces or none at all assuming they have a lot of Tier 6.

What I said could be inaccurate for some classes like Warriors, since warriors actually want the tier set bonus that gives 5 seconds off of intercept. Also, rogues wont wear full PVE gear ever in TBC (As far as I know). In Season 2 I think we might see some wack stuff where people just wear full PVE gear and fully gem resilience or something which is some speculation I saw.

Original TBC Season 1 Release Date: January 30, 2007 (14 Days after the release of The Burning Crusade).

Difference: Arena Season 1 TBC Classic release date will most likely be months after the initial release. If we can assume the phase is even similar to Classic WoW’s Phase 1.

Original TBC Season 2 Release Date: June 20, 2007 (This Aligned with T5 aka SSC and TK. Could be wrong, its insanely hard to fact check this season though lmao. It was ez to check s1).

It doesn’t really make much sense to have Arena Season 1 this late. It won’t even feel satisfying to get PVP gear since people will already have a lot of T4 pieces imo.

It’s super hard for me to predict the main issues that’ll happen since I’ve only played in late seasons on private serv*ers where the arena seasons align properly from what I’ve seen. So I’m wearing full PVP gear with 200-300+ resil and I don’t have to think about it because it’s just worth to wear the full set.

Anyways, who actually wants to go a full phase without rated PVP after playing classic for the past 2 years… – No one? Okay, good me too.

Also, rogues with the way the seasons are looking will completely run the game so far. More-so than they already do. People will actually have to deal with Warglaives in S2 OMEGALUL. Season 1 with T4 + T5 content on release means that Rogue/Mage is instantly the rank 1 comp in 2s, and I’d imagine that RMP will just be completely free rank 1 also. Season 2 with Warglaives means that rogues will also be rank 1 if ur not brain dead. gg.

If anything I said is actually wrong and you actually have pserver exp then post and tell me why I’m wrong. I could be completely inaccurate.

Edit: I kind of want to clarify also, I don’t think the season should start immediately on TBC launch. I think they should wait 1-2 weeks to start the season, this’ll give people time to reach 70 and grind bgs for pvp gear. Would be nice to have the time to do that without stressing out over points and stuff etc.

might have a lot of typos, im poopoo @ proofreading my own typing

Efpsychi-grobbulus · February 20, 2021, 12:56am

Bump. No rated arena during phase one is ridiculous, and having warriors during phase two with stormherald will be a huge disadvantage for most players!

Chromag-malganis · February 20, 2021, 12:58am

It must be a typo or something? The way its listed makes ZERO sense as PvE gear will be significantly stronger than PvP gear…?

Khlause-kurinnaxx · February 20, 2021, 12:59am

yeah, this for sure. Arena gear = T4 basically.

Snowboots-whitemane · February 20, 2021, 1:00am

Yes, this is why I’m saying this. Even if the Seasons weren’t aligned with the tier sets I’m mentioning traditionally. The way the Tier Sets were made were more-so equivalent to that specific Tier set.

Gaylordman-faerlina · February 20, 2021, 1:00am

Wouldn’t this make the craftable weapons kind of useless?

Since you would get arena points pretty fast, and everyone with a pulse salves for weapons first.

Rogarin-benediction · February 20, 2021, 1:01am

Resilience will absolutely dunk on tier gear, so its not really necessary.

Khlause-kurinnaxx · February 20, 2021, 1:02am

No because the crafted weapons align with the corresponding tier (as you get the mats and all that) keeping them roughly at the correct power level.

The advantage of the crafted weapon is that you have it basically NOW, vs RNG to get the weapon you want.

Ironchain-herod · February 20, 2021, 1:09am

No. The second tier crafted weapons are better than S1 weapons.

The advantage of the crafted weapons is that they’re substantially superior to everything else.

Nerf-arugal · February 20, 2021, 1:40am

Entirely depends on the class. Classes like rogue, Hpal, warr, are HEAVILY incentivized to mix in PVE gear for more dmg/healing, while classes like locks/priest are basically forced to max resil because they have no escape and are forced to face tank everything.

Khlause-kurinnaxx · February 20, 2021, 1:41am

Its not so much that you’re not competitive if you don’t have them tho at the corresponding content tier.

Pwnytailz-fairbanks · February 20, 2021, 1:51am

Did Blizzard suggest that Season 1 would not be during Phase 1?

I assume they will wait a month after P1 starts to begin the Arena season to let people gear up.

I agree it should track P1, with Season 2 with P2, Season 3 with P3 and P4 (isn’t ZA gear basically S3 gear equivalent?) and Season 4 with P5.

Bearhands-faerlina · February 20, 2021, 1:52am

You dont get arena points that fast at all. Even at like 2k rating it’ll take over a month

Mihal-kirtonos · February 20, 2021, 1:52am

I completely agree with OP.

Gaylordman-faerlina · February 20, 2021, 1:54am

If it started early, you would get points earlier in the lifespan. Therefore yes faster than not putting it Phase 1.

Bearhands-faerlina · February 20, 2021, 1:54am

They said Season 2 will line up with BT/Hyjal so reasonable to assume S1 will be SSC/TK

Spongy-mankrik · February 20, 2021, 1:58am

The current phase was the best compromise between pve and pvp.

This aint 2007 my man. 5 months of Kara and gruul/mag isn’t going to cut it. Delaying t5 was the best thing for s1. Expecting pve to have nothing but those 3 for 4 to 5 months isn’t realistic.

Edit: and according to wowhead p1 is s1. But we can’t have 4 or 5 months of s1 with nothing but Kara and two short 25man boss raids. This compromise worked out better for pvpers. Better this than t5 on launch.

Bearhands-faerlina · February 20, 2021, 2:01am

That doesn’t make any sense. As a warrior say, at launch you’ll have access to Deep Thunder which is equivalent to a S1 Glad 2h, which also takes weeks to months of saving points. Or you can craft the DT which is better anyway because of the proc, and you’ll have enough points to buy a couple pieces of the set.

The logic is basically Phase 1 is just a prologue. You’ll have some minor 25 man’s and a 10 man to do while everyone levels to 70 and catches up. Then P2 hits, S1 and the first real tier of raids come out and everyone can start more or less on an even playing field.

Spongy-mankrik · February 20, 2021, 2:05am

Phase 1 will start with Arena Season 1, the original eight dungeons, along with the Karazhan, Gruul’s Lair and Magtheridon’s Lair raids.

According to wowhead s1 will start p1. I dont see the issue. S1 lasted 20 weeks. You were never going to get 5 months of no t5 just to not interfere with the least balanced season of all.

Bearhands-faerlina · February 20, 2021, 2:05am

Yea actually that makes sense and seems perfect tbh. S1 launches a few weeks after launch. Dedicated PVPers are just getting their first pieces of tier and are weeks at best from their first weapons. By the time PVEers are getting their SSC/TK weapons, PVPers should be getting their PVP weapons which are about the same ilvl, so it works out.