Pretty much this. Saw the tooltip and walked by it like I do those old, bruised apples at the market.
I would say it’s a mediocre tree. Not bad, just mediocre.
Wow… toxic DK forums are still at it I see. Insults, conspiracy theories. Did you get back from being banned just to get banned again?
It is honestly impressive, as someone who rarely even posts here and browses occasionally, how every thread and suggestion made by anyone is constantly harassed by them with the general opposition of views. Always sucking the life out of any creative idea, convenience, or general theme.
It’s been for years now. It’s honestly kind of impressive how special it is.
I also agree with the OP. They can modify speed. At the moment, it’s pretty silly in PvP. A Warrior can Hamstring you prior to pressing your horse and you’re still snared. This is just Death’s Advance with a horse–not really anything to write home about. For ten seconds, you can move at 100% baseline run speed.
Meanwhile: Every other class has leaps, blinks, charges, displacements, etc. It’s absurd to state beyond a situation where someone is ignoring you that it’s powerful. Anyone with a brain in their head will put a slow on you and you’ll be SOL and moving at baseline 100% again or rooted for an eternity. (Note: It does not have Blessing of Freedom attached to it.)
And yeah, it’s boring that the choice node is “open world you’ll never use because 710% flying exists” and “haha here’s your worse version of steed without freedom.” Personally, thematically, I’d rather have the horse be baseline run speed and just the aesthetic with fixed animations, but that’s too much to ask for from Blizzard. Flame and freak out, if you want. I’m not really checking back on here because this is a graveyard.
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Yet im called things like idiot, maggot, it, stupid and on and on, it kind of defeats what you are trying to push here. How about you lot just stop talking about me and get some better ideas?
it should just transform into death charge automatically when you’re in an instanced zone.
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How lazy are people that they cant change 1 talent when many others are changing things around all the time based on the content they are doing.
They shouldnt have even had a perma mounted option and just had death charge. People would have still been happy about getting their horse.
Then go away. Why waste your time on a Forum, where all you do is mock, hate and eyeroll every single post? You either work for Blizz (lol) or just enjoy the feeling of an illusionary “Gotcha” moment from a Forum post?
Now you’re the victim?
What is your endgame here? Prove everyone wrong? That WoW is the greatest game ever invented and it has zero flaws? And anyone who dislikes or has an issue with an in-game mechanic or Hell… anything it looks like. You respond:
Quit
Can’t you comprehend basic Wow stuff
You people are just lazy
If you love the game this much, go play it. Leave the Forums. Let us “simple” folks talk amongst ourselves about things we wish would change.
Thanks.
Go ge em tiger!
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If I worked for Blizz some of you would have been perma banned by now. Quit with your conspiracy theories.
Quite literally yes. You are the bully here.
To have proper information.
You are wrong. Doesnt take much to prove it.
More conspiracy theories and selective reading from someone that pushes conspiracy theories and calls other people maggots? There is plenty to criticize Blizzard on and I have even said as much.
You dont have an issue with an in game mechanic. You have an issue with common sense and a single word out of an entire sentence.
And yes, if you are just going to complain about every single little thing and act like the sky is falling you should quit.
You literally cant comprehend a tooltip which is 1 sentence.
And yes, people are just lazy that want to be OP and have admitted to wanting to have an answer for everything and not have any downsides.
Why are you making stuff up?
You should leave the forums with how absolutely toxic you are. Can you see no one is defending your behavior or even your stance on this topic that “outdoors” apparently means something else when the rest of the playerbase is saying “this is just obvious that you wouldnt be able to mount in instances”
Or you can leave.
This is you right? So why exactly should you be here if you are going to act like this?
Oh is this you as well? Maybe look in a mirror before you go insulting others buddy.
Wait…I was under the impression that this talent would work outdoors, like for instance say something that takes place entirely outdoors - Battle for Mount Hyjal, Zul Farrak, Zul Gurub, etc. Is that not the case?
I was psyched that there was going to be a speed competitor to druids for running old xmog runs.
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LMAO play rogue or DH lad, they move that fast passively when you have some gear.
At all times? No, no one thought that. When you can normally use a riding mount in an instance? Yep. I def did and lots of others did too.
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Then why the complaints? If you cant use the talent in a dungeon that looks to be “inside” a structure then to keep balance you cant have it in every other dungeon. You guys want this scored dungeon content which is a competition so this is what happens.
Between this and the final hero talent being tied to Frostwyrm’s Fury, when the Frost tree is extremely starved for free points… I’ll probably just switch to Deathbringer.
The other mobility option is a large benefit over the ability it replaces. Having a better Divine steed than paladins is a huge plus for Death Knights. Clearing and suppression of some CC with your mobility button is impactful and something paladins asked for for ages, enjoy it.
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This man speaks da truth.
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Instead of being 200% movespeed inside instance content, it could be 200% outside and 130% inside so we would had a movespeed closer to Rogues and still be able to do the whole Rider mounted fantasy without being broken but still a fair movespeed bonus that would improve the biggest weakness of DKs that is exactly movement…
At best it would be a 15% movement speed increase since that is historically what DK had, and at that point it should just be baked into the class.
I was also very underwhelmed by this ability. Sure, I didn’t expect to be able to use it indoors, or inside instanced content, BGs - though I suppose, since BGs and other stuff ARE outdoors, it should still work. Even if it’s a nerfed version. Someone mentioned Druid’s Travel Form - only works outdoors, does work in instances where you can mount, in BGs it’s nerfed to not be as fast as out in the world. Why couldn’t we have that?
Still, it’s not the general definition of “outdoors” (see: Travel Form, Ghost Wolf), which sort of meant “place you can mount in”, but this new definition which is “place you can fly in”, which is inconsistent and not specified. Why shouldn’t I be able to use On a Paler Horse in Argus, or the Maw, Ghostlands, Azuremyst Isle? Doesn’t make a lot of sense to me.
Not quite. In a vacuum it’s more powerful, sure, but for instance - what happens when you mount up to sprint at someone, then get rooted? You’re out of luck. Paladins can use Blessing of Freedom on themselves and keep going. Non-Rider DKs using Death’s Advance, as slow of a sprint as that is, can activate Wraith Walk to clear the root and keep going. Death’s Charge, on the other hand, precludes you from using Wraith Walk. So you have to either sit the full root before continuing to sprint, or cancelaura your mount to be able to clear the root. It’s not a net positive every time.
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