I was so excited to play Rider of the Apocalypse Frost DK in PvP and use deathcharger in combat. Now I’m finding out that “outdoors” means where you can fly, are you f’ing serious? Who tf is gonna pick this talent, not even world pvpers are picking this. This is useless in all forms of content, so why make it an option? Dagger to the stomach blizzard…
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Add it to the list that they couldnt be bothered to code right or be bothered to tell us how it really is
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Maybe its not a code thing if its intentional, but at least word it right. Do you think this was intended or bugged? I really hope its a bug…
Blizzard was NEVER going to allow you to have mounted combat at mounted movement speeds in any meaningful content. This isnt a coding thing of them failing to say how it works, this is yet another failure on the playerbase.
All the information was there. I called it when they released the hero talents in text format months ago.
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It would have just been too powerful to stay mounted the whole time.
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You really thought you’d be able to be full mount speed at all times in instances content?
Come on guys. You’re better than that.
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This is a given, this talent is more of a fun overworld rp talent then anything else…
Probrobly would be a good tailoring gathering talent.
They can always reduce speeds of the mount, but to say its usable “outdoors” then change the definition of what an outdoors area is just screams I hate the DK playerbase. DKs have always been on mounts since Warcraft, let the true DK fantasy finally happen. Again, reduce speeds or like make it when you select the talent that all other mobility skills are unusable so the mount is your only mobility. I just wanted to be a true DK and Blizzard’s intentionally poor wording kills another combat system for me.
You all sound like a girlfriend defending her abusive boyfriend because you’re emotionally clingy. No, blizzard (abusive boyfriend) messed up, stop justifying his poor behavior when he’s done it like 50 times now, thats not a screw up, thats just a bad development team…
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nice troll bait
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How tf is that troll bait, this sucks and ruined class fantasy for me this expansion. Tf?
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How did this ruin the fantasy in this expansion when this is farly a new ability? Did not having this in previous expansions ruined the fantasy then?
Your not making sense here.
As I have explained before, Death Knights rode in on horses since Warcraft, also seen in Legion with the Four Horsemen. This talent was to give us horses in combat like Death Knights had in lore, but it doesn’t let you mount anywhere except anywhere you can fly. This is basically useless as rarely am I using my ground mount in the world when I can fly at Mach 5. It ruins class fantasy because this was peak DK class fantasy, but they failed to implement it correctly and its unusable in 95% of the gameplay. I would say yes not having this in past expansions brought down class fantasy a decent amount, this is what DKs have wanted for a long time.
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You gonna answer my quiestion or deflect? How does not having this before this expansion not ruin the fantasy.
Maybe I dont understand your question, you put two negatives in a sentence so its confusing the reader. Again I say, DK class fantasy has always been lackluster since it didnt have a death knight on a horse in combat, this ruined past expansions with class fantasy as Death Knights were not what they should have been at. Finally they implement it and false advertise it with terrible wording and when I thought I was going to receive peak DK class fantasy, I did not because blizzard screwed with the playerbase again. I don’t understand how my answer is deflecting, I’ve stated this very clearly, have I not?
Very quickly people seem to be annoyed with my take on these talents, I don’t fully understand why this is a controversial idea. I assume most DKs have wanted horses in combat (and those who don’t can always choose another talent row), but its stirred up some people defending blizzard when this is just apparent false advertising on their part. Horses in combat is where DK’s should be for class fantasy, and as long as its not there, DKs will never truly feel like the DKs in lore aka lacking class fantasy.
*edit: I understand it could be overpowered, but I feel like there are work arounds. I.e. removing all other mobility skills, making the horse slower, etc.
This thread has to be a rage bait troll post.
But yes, Blizzard hates the DK playerbase, hyped you all up so you would buy the expansion, and did the ol’ switcheroo on you. What are you going to do? Get a refund? Chargeback? Continue giving money to a company that you believe hates you and just complain on the forums where like 70% of the people knew this couldnt be used everywhere and that Death Charge was going to be the pick in that node?
If you continue to give money to a company that you think hates you, then you are the girlfriend here.
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I don’t fully understand why complaining about Blizzard’s poor development is a rage bait troll post. They screwed up and if nobody talks about it, they’ll continue to make these dumb mistakes and f over the player base. I did not have months to research the talents, I just looked them up, glanced at them and said this looks extremely fun and bought the expansion. It is not my fault that Blizzard can’t word their tooltips correctly, but it is my fault I gave them more money. So, yes I would agree with you I keep coming back to the abusive boyfriend that is Blizzard. I just don’t understand why people are annoyed with agitated posts against blizzard because they keep messing things up with no repercussions.
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Because its not poor development, its your poor interpretation of the information that has been there since they announced rider.
So then its your fault. I knew the day the Hero Talents were released in written form that On a Paler Horse was going to be limited to the open world.
They worded it correctly.
Because this isnt Blizzards fault. Its yours. You even said that you just glanced at them.
What did they mess up here? On a Paler Horse being mounted combat was to be used outdoors meaning outside of instanced content. That is what it is. Its outdoors. No screw up, just a failure on your part.
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What ability in the game right now says “outdoors” but excludes instances, non-flying zones, and BGs?
Because all of those zones allow druids to use their outdoor only ability Travel Form. You being both wrong and pedantic to try to disenfranchise a post you don’t agree with is not helpful.
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basically it is a choice node… But there is actually no choice. Never pick the mounted combat one… lol
What I personally hate about it is how it breaks the animations.
I am a Death Knight but I’m not gonna deliberately snap my spine in half to 360 around to swing my sword at someone.
Would have thought Blizzard would have Quality Controlled that part in the very least.
Gonna say this has been the buggiest launch/Pre-expac event that I’ve ever experienced.
And while it may not have been objectively the buggiest launch. I t has been to me subjectively as other launches I have not encountered the bugs others have but this one I have been noticing so many… I am quite disappointed.
Cinematics have been dope though…
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