He can’t though. As GDKPs rely on new people to introduce new gold, you can’t attract new gold buyers if you can’t advertise lol.
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Is GDKP still banned?
Yes: Then we can make the educated guess that on Blizzards end the ban is working as they want it to.
No: The ban is likely lifted.
You will likely never get data or answers beyond the above.
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You can tell this guy wanted to see Obama’s birth certificate.
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You’ve seen the quality of posts made by the Anti-GDKP crowd. I’ve had enough accusations thrown at me here and would prefer not to be harassed in game.
Thank you for providing evidence in the very same post of these accusations or insinuations that the posters here are RMTers, without any evidence.
Why do some people want GDKP so bad? It !&$%ing sucks, it encourages gold buying and a bunch of other nonsense. Whats so bad about playing the game how it used to be / was intended?
Either /roll or join a guild.
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It’s one guy making these threads. When he took a break from the forums no one was talking about GDKPs. The players have moved on.
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If you feel the need to compare the results of a public experiment with a birth certificate, then I can assure you that this isn’t helping your case.
Blizzard doesn’t owe you any data or anything. They made the game and they set the ToS which you agreed to. If you don’t like it, take your money elsewhere. Both your swiped gold AND your subscription money.
The consensus is clear, GDKP is unwelcomed in SoD.
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If posting repetitive nonsense on the forums were an actionable violation of the forum rules none of us would be here.
It certainly isn’t an enforced violation of the EULA.
You must be new here.
What does this mean? Anything related to GDKPs would be down if they banned GDKPs. “The amount of gold made from GDKPs is down!” is the same meaningless statement.
They didn’t ban GDKPs because gold laundering itself was the problem to be solved, they banned them because of the effect that would have on OTHER aspects of the RMT situation. So did THAT RMT situation get better? And when exactly do we get to see the fruits of their labors?
Because so far the economy doesn’t seem to have changed.
The number of bots appears unaffected.
RMT is still as rampant as ever.
And the “social factor” didn’t recover because the playerbase seems to have little to no issue in being social.
So where exactly is the value of this policy? I don’t care either way, but if you’re going to enforce player behavior for a stated reason, there needs to be results. And so far there haven’t been any.
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GDKPer tears are readily available.
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They’ve stated that it’s easier to bust actual RMT since it’s not obfuscated by GDKP redistribution. That by itself justifies the decision. If you believe it or not it’s up to you. You could always throw a temper tantrum like the OP and threaten to quit on his 4 accounts two months ago.
If you’re expecting them to validate every decision they make with hard numbers to appease people opposed to their decisions then I’d wonder how long you’ve been alive?
Plus you and I both know - data wouldn’t matter.
Aggrend has mentioned that the ban has been a success on other outlets, so I’m guessing it was a success.
What are you looking for? Unless they say ‘we changed our mind and GDKP is no longer banned’ then the ban still stands for SoD.
Nothing to be swept under the rug. GDKP remains banned.
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It’s funny to me how consistently the pro-GDKP whiners completely forget about the reason given for the ban in its initial announcement, which was the preservation of traditional guild and social structures.
That’s the value of the policy. Well that, and Blizzard’s claim that it has made the process of identifying illicit transactions easier.
How would you know if RMT is down unless you’re the one selling the gold?
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Does it though? Because to me if you say something is going to help fix a problem and then it either doesn’t solve that problem, or you don’t do anything to better resolve the issue, then no it’s not justified. I don’t find the idea of this very compelling to resolve RMT, because there’s a better way to do it without any need to touch GDKP. But that requires actually using manpower something you will never get in a corporate environment that is laying off half their staff.
I don’t care if GDKP stays banned or not. I care if RMT and botting isn’t addressed. I never did GDKP in SoD anyway and really didn’t plan to. But I DO get exceedingly annoyed with the massive amount of bots I run into on a daily basis.
RMT is a business and to deal with it you have to treat it like a business. Right now they are treating it like cheating in a video game. When you deal with exploiters in video games generally you do long periods of observation followed by account closures en masse to prevent fingerprinting the technology that caught them. Since the people making the cheats (the business side) are not the same people getting banned (the clients) it’s much easier to address the problem.
But in this instance the botters ARE the business side, they are the supply for the gold. And there is a TTL for botting accounts where the account becomes cost neutral, and every hour the account remains open is profit for the botters. If you attack THAT supply line by repeatedly and immediately and endlessly banning the botters, rather than letting the accounts profit for months at a time, you kill the margins and the profit. RMT is a business, they aren’t sitting there running botting accounts for fun. You kill RMT when you make RMT no longer profitable. And a GDKP ban by itself does not do this. And we’re not seeing more resources put to anything else.
There are some of us who have played the game for 15-20 years. Some have played it for as long as or even longer than the SoD Devs. Keep in mind that these SoD Devs did not create the game. They’re here to modify a pre-existing game. Perhaps it’s not a good idea to try telling others what the traditional or social stuctures should be from decades ago, as it is not your place nor the Devs’.
What a PIA it must be…
Can’t rake in huge pots full of gold other people RMT’d.
Can’t sell said gold right back to the the same people.
Can’t use said gold to P2W your BiS.
First, I am not pro GDKP. I am anti botter and RMT. There is a significant difference. My argument has always a will always be that this policy change did not do enough to address botting and RMT, while being more a publicity and “good vibes” change to appease complainers. And this statement right here solidifies my view even more. It’s total BS that this has had ANY impact on social structures at all. Most of the primary GDKP groups since Classic began have been tight knit communities running regular events, they operate almost as guilds themselves and even are guilds sometimes.
Meanwhile every day we see more and more people complaining about a lack of social interaction, the death of pugging, and guilds falling apart due to not being able to fill roles. So glad they banned GDKP, really fixed all that social and guild drama…
Yes a claim. And yet botting still appears to be as rampant as ever. So where is that trickle down effect at?