I am in the same boat, except I don’t have any hair to rip out.
What tends to happen with me is, I want a thing to do one simple thing, and so I go look at WeakAuras and every WA I see is just a big comprehensive package or whatever and I don’t need/want all that. I just want a thing, to do a thing, no more no less. if that makes sense.
example: I wanted a thing that did nothing but tell me whether my Fatebound Coin was heads or tails, so i didn’t have to look on the ground for the coin. another example, I want a thing that simply displays a count of how many Festering Wounds for my DK.
WeakAuras do too much for what I need, I am not looking for a UI replacement, you know? and maybe I am misunderstanding what they are but when I search and look at whats available, the vast majority look like UI replacements to me.
If my issues with WA are just because I’m dumb, I’ll accept that.
If you can ‘break’ them then they are overcomplicated trash that you do not need. Most common WAs are very simple;
Check if an ability is usable or a buff/debuff is present on you or target.
Show some visual thing and/or play a sound.
That’s it. Once you know how to make them they are very easy to duplicate and set up exactly how you want, then you don’t have to rely on some Wago moron’s idea of what a usable UI looks like.
so blizzard is designing content to ignore add-ons and the only thing you gave me was add-ons are gonna try to figure out a way around it. I love how you people use these buzz words, fast and loose without really understanding them.
This is a massive overstatement of what that interview said.
What they said is they’re looking to do is claw back some addon functionality.
Which may impact WeakAuras, though keep in mind the last time Blizzard tried that, their method was through private auras, which made WeakAuras even more necessary as mechanics that could be tracked with regular addons needed to be circumvented with specific auras and/or macros.
If private auras weren’t a thing, something like Broodtwister eggs would have just been automatically handled through bigwigs or DBM.
Ultimately weakaura fights are a problem when Blizzard creates a situation where you’ve got a pass/fail mechanic where the fail outcome is a guaranteed wipe and you have to coordinate multiple people within a couple seconds to NOT fail the mechanic.
In Mythic Broodtwister, this means everyone having the WeakAura that automatically marks you with a debuff and the raid leader having macros to rapidly place down markers telling you where to stand with that debuff. If you do not pop eggs in the correct order at the correct pace, you wipe.
In Heroic, this doesn’t matter because you only need 1 debuff to pop eggs and you get WAY more debuffs than you need, so you dont need to be as tightly coordinated.
The WeakAuras that people have for raids outside fights like Broodtwister tend to be simply reskinning the exact information that DBM or Bigwigs already offers.
Is it required to play wow? No. Are you worth taking a chance on if you refuse to even try it out? Also no. The beauty about WA is you can know absolutely nothing about how to create anything and still take advantage of this amazing addon. 3 seconds googling x class rotation weakaura or insert raid boss weak auras will net you with a plethora of results that will simplify your life. You can import those weak auras right into your game with 0 setup 99.99% of the time. So the fact you have this toolkit in front of you, that has the magic wrench in it, and you refuse to use it is what makes you a dud in serious raidong guilds eyes.
You know I can understand this because I had this exact same problem years ago. So what I did was spent less than an hour watching YouTube tutorials how to make basic weakauras. It’s really not complicated to make your own weakauras to monitor buffs, debuffs, spell CDs, etc… It’s very simple. Obviously there’s some more complicated weakauras out there but 99% of them involve watching for a debuff/buff and triggering an icon/texture and that’s easily a 3 minute tutorial on YouTube.
Private auras just got turned into a boogeyman by the community who relies too much on addon usage. It doesn’t mean you can’t see the mechanic and you’re doing them completely blind, it just means the methods players were using to track them because they didn’t want to do it themselves didn’t work so they had to come up with something else other than doing it themselves. There’s still time to react and coordinate without the addons, but players have lost the ability to do that over time thanks to things like WA and DBM. It’s the path of least resistance, as it usually is.
This is an extreme exaggeration. No one will know or care whether or not you use weakauras up to Heroic Raid or KSM level M+. If you are trying to get into Mythic Raiding or KSH then maybe, but if you are someone who doesn’t want to embrace weakauras in the first place, you probably aren’t someone who wants to do content at that level.
You definitely don’t need WAs to play! But yeah it might be more tricky doing top tier 1% content push.
That being said, I’ve seen top tier players push really high that just know the content so well they don’t use it and it’s just skill.
Casual-mid tier shouldn’t have any issues, but other addons like Details, Bigwigs/Littlewigs, AngryKeystones(instead of a WA version), and raider io can be helpful.
It’s honestly kind of sad to see so much “it was easy for me, it’ll be easy for you” in this thread. Like I haven’t already tried these suggestions and tried to work this damned addon before. I just can’t bring myself to try with it anymore solely because thinking about it is a reminder of that painful time.
Hopefully I can eventually find an understanding guild and start getting AotCs again, and finally earn a M+ mount one time in my life.
Nah, I hardly use it. Actually only ever got the addon and used it for my Augmentation spec… which I almost never play anymore these days like every other Evoker.
I’ll say though that I’m not against all addons. DBM I can just install and forget, and I use other addons beyond that too, which is what makes those great. It’s only weakauras that I have a terrible dislike for due to a special frustrating history.
You don’t HAVE to tell them you don’t use WAs. I didn’t for years (only started using it about a week ago in fact) and was in guilds that were trying to push at the start of Legion/DF and nobody had any idea. I had a Blood DK, Resto Druid, and Outlaw Rogue I was using for Heroic Raszageth and was able to get through the heroic raid with no problems without WA (though unfortunately other people in my semi-casual guild weren’t able to figure it out before I quit even though they DID use WAs).
You don’t start a job interview by telling them what you CAN’T do, so don’t apply to a guild and start telling them about how you don’t use WAs. They will jump to conclusions because people in WoW only know how to do things the exact way some streamer told them. Most WAs just take the same information you already have and compile it neatly in a different location on your screen.
When you think about it too, I don’t really see any normal everyday guilds with a big list of required addons. They’re just looking for people to enjoy the game with.
Only top 50-100 would be where it’s managed in a really strict way, and even then some of those guilds I think have chilled out compared to past years.
So yeah there isn’t really a need to talk about what addons they do and don’t have.
