They’re not bugged ones like we saw early on, they’re just very very stupid.
Considering were seeing a shift towards melee comps, especially with the state of Havoc and Veng DH, i wouldn’t be too surprised a MW monk on top of that as well. Both disc and MW monks are pretty insane right now in M+.
You know what, with all the stupid questions people who want them to balance the game have gotten, what possible reason can yall give me for why blizard shouldnt balance the overall damage? having niches is one thing, but clearly isnt causing the disparity we see now.
S3 is looking really good for MW. Crazy heals, good dmg, good survivability… and poison/disease dispels are the best for S3 dungeons.
Well Aug eovker or evoker as a whole is a new spec/class so they aren’t going to nerf in the current expansion. a support rule will always wanted not just coz of the dps buff they provide but is the buff they give to tanks and healers that’s what make doing keys a lot easier.
Blizzard should have made Aug eovker a tank. If they truly wants support roles they need to have a least 5 to 6 support spec and dungeons and raids and pvp needs to change. for raids the flex should change to 20 to 25 people and 5man dungeons should be 6 people 1 tank 1 healer 3 dps and 1 support. B
Blizzard being blizzard is too lazy to do any major change and then release a support spec in a dps spot.
Spriest issue have also been PI. Is really helps boost spec that relies on haste. PI should been remove or make it a self buff only. Mass dispell is always an issue even with the new dungeons it still useful. It should be on a 1min CD and a better way to spread DoT and not just rely or Shadow Crush.
I don’t remember DH being anywhere even close to this good in Legion, or Monk in mists.
And yeah that’s the thing I would move away from, remove ebon might from affecting tanks and healers in keys unless specifically targeted over dps, cut down some of the utility / aoe disruption spells, and balance damage accordingly.
The concept of a dps spec that provides damage by buffing others is absolutely fine.
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Well, you are wrong, so try again. Let’s play a scenario out with addons/dps meters removed and our current class balance exists.
I run a +20 BH, first time without an aug. We run the dungeon, we beat the timer with lets say 2 minutes to spare. I run it back, same group, but now we invite an aug. My tank says “wow, this doesn’t hurt any more I’m going to pull more”, (I’m the healer), “wow, does gash frenzy even do anything”. “Hey tank, pull like, half the right side of the dungeon and keep going, we good”. Now we’re off 2 chesting the key. Wow, maybe we should invite that aug again I felt great! Idk what it is, but everything died faster and felt so much easier.
I get it, an aug isn’t required to time arguably up to top keys. Why would I willingly ignore a class that makes me feel SO much stronger? I don’t need meters or addons to tell me the difference between playing with aug and without, so I believe your argument is moot point. I can notice these things and I am not even in title range. The problem is this class buffs your tanks and healers, along with being top damage in a group. It just isn’t ok to be like this, and this is not just a meta slave issue. Just because YOU don’t think it’s a problem, a significant portion of the player base would disagree with you, and is supported by numbers that you ignore. So this is the only reply I’m going to direct towards you, since I believe you to be trolling anyways. I’m all for open discussion, but after reading this thread I don’t believe open discussion is what you are looking for.
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I seriously dont understand what problem you have with blizzard tuning the classes and fixing the 20-30% damage disparity, or nerfed the utility of a class that has broken the game
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Well does someone forces you to play them? You can achieve everything in this game or season by playing literally any class.
Even if all classes would deal exact same damage, or healing, there would always be one that is picked over the other.
See this as F1 races or any race competition. All cars are equal, they all can do the same, but it’s the driver.
Don’t let these things bother you and play what you like. It performs good trust me
Not true.
Demonstrably false given how much more varied the previous season was despite only being a little bit better balanced overall. People were already willing to not only play but play with none meta specs even in the top 0.1% of players because the difference between them wasn’t big enough for players to feel they couldn’t overcome them.
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DH was pretty good in legion but not super meta like Aug eovker. I don’t play BFA but from what I see they are were crap till end of expansion when they get a ton of haste from courroption gear so then they are good again.
I still remember watch MDI for BFA is always a BM hunter Double DK and warrior tank and MW monk.
Don’t wanna argue with someone , but I will say it again. You can achieve everything with any class in the game. You can run high keys, you can do mythic raids, and I will guess you can earn pvp titles since I don’t pvp, with any class. Q
But I bet search any class on you tube for any content difficulty and you will find it.
Out of curiosity I decided to check this, highest feral druid key I can find on youtube this season is a 25 freehold from a guy with currently 3170 score. There is however a single feral druid who is within title cutoff range in the entire game, so I guess if one guy can do it (and only just) there’s no problem at all.
Like I said you can do it
I am doing it, I’m safely getting title this season, as I did last, and have been above the rating requirement for months. I just think that area of the game was more fun last season with more than 5 total specs dominating it at the high end.
Wow, those are some impressive numbers. I’ve certainly seen a few guildies drop out of raid to focus on m+.
See, here’s the thing: I geared up an Aug of my own to the same level that I geared up my main and got 8/9M on it, specifically so I have a leg to stand on when I say that the spec’s bad for the game.
If this isn’t extreme dedication to my sheer hatred for the spec’s existence, I don’t know what is.
Wanna know what the sad thing is? I have years of experience playing SPriest at a Cutting Edge level yet with the exceptions of Zskarn, Echo of Neltharion, and Sarkareth (which this guy has not killed, but my Priest has on multiple occasions) my Aug has consistently been able to pull better numbers than my Priest ever could.
The worst of it is my Aug managing 230k on an Assault of the Zaqali speedkill and my Priest managing a measly 177k. In terms of boss damage it’s a lot closer but it’s still noticeably in my Aug’s favor. This is a spec that’s been out for two months versus a spec I’ve played multiple different versions of since Legion and that I’m very good at.
God I hate Aug.
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Why does meta matter to a level 10?
As an avid DOAC player who played a brokenly OP Albion Infiltrator I remember the second account cleric buff bots well.
That said it wasn’t because “nobody wanted to play support” it was because as a stealthy you could do a lot of solo RvR picking people off and cleric buffs gave a pretty big advantage, especially in a 1v1 with another stealthy (Hibernian nightshade and whatever the Mid one was called, I forget the name).Actual teams or 8 mana running around it was easy to have a cleric or friar. The actual great teams were a mix of either melee pain train running /assist or an aoe mez and a few pbaoe casters deleting people.
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were we playing the same game or?