Are the Forsaken gone?

Coming back after a bit of a break and can’t help but feel my old favorite race is gone.

I know the new shiny dragons are running around, but even so it seems so few of those stoic people who suffered through the hardships of an unwanted second life. Have we been turned off from them completely due to our stints in the Shadowlands? Or have they been on their way out and the Vulpera and Dracthyr finished the job that the blood elves started long ago?

What are your thoughts?

My thoughts are this:

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BfA and Shadowlands both hurt a lot of Forsaken interest indeed but we are far from gone. There are plenty of RPers and guilds about. We are just not as abundant as the popular races. A quick scroll on the forums here reveals various undead guilds.

You can also find a collection of us over at the UndercityUnited discord server.
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/undercity-united-20-weve-moved-to-a-new-server/1280393

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be the change you want to see!

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How do you do fellow living friends.

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I’m still here! Somewhere! I think!

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the vulpera and dracthyr are nowhere near strong enough to “finish” the job. bfa did that well enough

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If Blizzard would just relent and let Forsaken have facial hair and stand upright, I might be instantly convinced to transfer a number of my alts to Horde.

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I know, what the heck? They offer back surgery to the orcs and upright trolls in the Zandalari but nothing for the Forsaken? Beards and Back Specialists for all the Horde!

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I locked all the Forsaken in a broom closet until they learn how to have good posture and stand up right.

We may never see them again, I fear.

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Came back to horde for df, seems like bfa/shl did a number on the eastern kingdoms races numbers in general. Kinda terrifying.

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Well, someone said to be the change I want to see, keep an eye open for a series of characters coming your way soon! The creative juices are already flowing…or is that ichor?

Tastes.

Results are inconclusive.

I find this question odd, considering there’s not only the UCU Discord and at least 3 Forsaken guilds including RAS and Convocation of Darkness, but a Forsaken event advertised on this forum on 1/7. I literally bumped its thread 2 days ago.

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Is the Remembrance Enclave the 3rd one?

I noted them, and also NEC has had some activity lately but I’m not sure if they’re recruiting.

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I’m still here :slight_smile:

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It’s been my experience that the less you’re seen, the more you can accomplish.

Also, fire spec is in a bit of a state right now, so I’ve been maining a demo warlock.

I wouldn’t say the Forsaken are ‘gone’, but there’s some troubling times ahead for them.


No Val’kyr:

No resurrections. No raising the dead en-mass. Only powerful Necromancers can do it now, and that’s on a case-by-case basis … and after the War of Thorns, very few people are going to want to willingly be raised into Undeath, leaving only the sick, the desperate, the mad and those terrified of what waits beyond the Veil.

None of these are going to have sturdy bodies. None of these are going to come through with their minds unscarred and stable. The era of Forsaken soldiers covering the battlefield is gone, and the Desolate Council is ruling over a people slowly and quietly decaying away … unless Califlower has some tricks up her sleeve we’ve yet to see.


No new spare parts:

Forsaken could, with a bit of medical knowledge, some alchemy and some necrotic energy, attach the limbs of Men, Elves and Dwarves to their frames to replace those damaged by conflict, or to gradual wear and tear, since Forsaken don’t heal naturally like the living. Any wear, any damage, is permanent and never truly recovers, even with the fungal aid from the Plaguelands and their Cannibalise ability. At best they can slow it down to a trickle that might allow a Forsaken to endure for decades, if not centuries.

What we’ve learned in the Shadowlands might alter this, especially if the Forsaken can figure out how to replicate what was done to Nathanos without needing to sacrifice the Living, and become Undead entities that possess the same regeneration and restoration abilities of the Living … and possibly the ability to reproduce naturally too.


A low profile:

For better or worse, Sylvanas took their name, already considered dark and untrustworthy by the Light-worshipping masses of the Eastern Kingdoms, and ground it hard into the dirt, then washed it off in the contents of a chamber pot and did it again. Much like the Orcs struggle with the perception that they are mindless brutes and inveterate warmongers due to the lingering horrors of the Original Horde, the Dark Horde of Blackrock Spire, and the efforts of Garrosh and his ‘Twue Howde’ nonsense, the Forsaken are irrevocably tarnished in the eyes of Azeroth, and this is unlikely to change for generations to come, if at all.

Any large gathering of Forsaken is going to earn a fair share of alarm and hatred from those outside of the Horde, and it is going to be back-breaking work for the Forsaken to earn back even a smidgeon of the trust and respect they once held in the eyes of the other factions and nations of the world.


Thar be Dragons:

There’s a shiny new race to play and, much like how the Orcs lost a lot of population post-Mist of Pandaria as people got turned off from the Thud and Blunder archetype being thrown around, and bad-faith actors declaring themselves Kor’kron and abusing the hell out of the other Roleplayers, the Forsaken are saddled with a lot of the atrocities of the Battle for Azeroth, regardless of their actual involvement, as a people and as individuals, and that’s going to hamper a lot of folks playing them for some time to come.

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I sure hope so.

((For clarification this is IC))

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Unlike a big chunk of our orc friends, forsaken didn’t choose the bad rep we got, by and large distanced from the BFA warmonger bit.

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