Are the First Ones the true end game?

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Who are the mysterious creators of everything?

The First Ones have advanced technology capable of creating robots known as the Death Gods, and this technology allowed these Gods to use the power of souls/anima from another plane of existence (the mortal realm) to empower themselves and also regulate the afterlife.

To have such advanced technology that allowed the Death Gods to literally control and turn souls from another plane of existence into an energy source (anima) or resurrect them back to their own plane of existence is a whole new level of power that was never before seen.

After leaving the shadow lands, the First Ones created Elune (because the Winter Queen called her Sister, so Elune must also be a robot created by the advanced technology of the First Ones), and possibly other powerful gods.

Did the First Ones invent their advanced technology? What was their purpose in creating these Gods and then leaving?

Sure, advanced technology and gods being robots seems out of place in Warcraft but if you think about it, to the Warcraft characters who still fights with swords, highly advanced robots are essentially Gods to them.

The Void Lords and the Titans, they are nothing compared to the First Ones. I believe that the First Ones are the true end game.

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To be frank, we got little info on First Ones or Void Lords if that matters. The Titans, however, we got buttload of it–both good and bad. When I see new zones or old zones with titan relics/questlines. It seems they’re trying to corrupt/control Azeroth with Order.

I can’t help but feel the Titans are endgame.

Edit: Sure, the Void Lords are trying to corrupt Azeroth, but they only send Old Gods, that’s it. We haven’t met one of them. It seems they’re busy elsewhere.

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End game implies we’d be fighting the First Ones, do we have a reason to fight them?

If we ever got a chance to speak with the First Ones we might be able to offer them some feedback / perspective on their design patterns before resulting to violence.

Or I guess we could just murder them. Their fate ultimately lies with whatever NPC offers us 13 gold.

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The Eternal Ones aren’t robots. They’re powerful souls inhabiting artificial bodies, which is nothing new to the franchise.

See above.

Lore misunderstandings aside, while the First Ones definitely seem to have been powerful, we know virtually nothing about them so it’s impossible to predict if they’ll wind up being enemies, or if they’ll have some kind of equivalent antagonists on their own scale.

I’m still not convinced that they aren’t some higher level of Order, since they certainly seem to be all about Ordering things despite the claims that they stand before and outside the six powers dynamic.

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From everything we have learned about the first ones is that they were advanced. They carved the universe into what they wanted. Then they vanished. The shadowlands was already there doing its thing. The mushroom god talks about it a bit.

Likely they were just light lords that have all fallen to the void. But who knows they were made up just a few years ago on top of the old lore.

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Thanks to Zerith Mortis we know a bit more about them. I just can’t see them being our enemy ‘by nature’ but if it was something like Nimue and the Guardians and we have to defeat them as a bypass then I can see it happening.

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There’s always a bigger fish.

Just from a “hey, we want to keep making more expansions” point of view, I don’t think we should ever expect to actually learn everything. There will always be new layers to explore.

Are the First Ones a new layer of mystery? Perhaps. Are they the final layer? I strongly doubt it.

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Possibly, though it’s likely the First Ones were just the precursors of the Titans, Voidlords and the like, and no longer exist. Perhaps they became infused with the universe to a point where they no longer have form be it physical, mental or spiritual.

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For now, quite possibly. Sargeras was once the true endgame. He’s now a chump. It’s only a matter of time before we learn about tge true end game foe, the Firstest Ones… and then we’ll discover the Ones Before The Firstest… and then we’ll discover the Most Beforest All Others Ones… and then we’ll discover - shot by danusers hitman

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the first ones are a mistake

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Phat lewt and AotC mounts?

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The first ones had moms and dads.

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No, once we see them in person we’ll start learning about the 0th Ones.

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we killed a Void Lord in Arcatraz.

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The only answer the narrative team can give us that makes sense: “I made that up.”

Expanding the cosmic chart another tier was an incredibly terrible decision. Making death of lore characters invalidated by a “super death” is just as bad.

I could ramble on, but the simple fact is the narrative lacks any sense of consequence. There are many interesting stories that exist in WoW, but the framing is about as solid as a foundation made of sand.

The true endgame of WoW, narratively, can’t exist anymore. Might as well make it whoever wins a popularity contest – like they did in Cata for the future of the Horde’s Warchief (this actually happened).

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For WoW’'s last day, Blizz should turn off respawning for all mobs, so when anything dies, it stays dead, so we could be The Last Ones.

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This is the way

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Ve’nari is the true end game. She’ll be the last boss of WoW and she was using us all along.

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I think we should just ignore everything that happened in Shadowlands, like Blizzard is trying to desperately do.

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I would speculate they formed the foundation of existence but had a fall out of some sort,the evidence is present in shadowlands ,something big happen to tore the world apart. This could be a pattern the influenced every layer they made.

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