destro locks got worse with s2 meta… traits nerfed by 50% if anything it would be easier…
gore is the best player in NA most likely so will have to respect his opinion i just so happened to be watching that part of the stream and if your not cherry picking you would of stated that he actually right after saying that kind of thought for a second and reiterated what he said to include sp/boomy as top caster and even agreed with another viewer who asked which were the 2 worst casters ele/lock
i played warlock at the launch of BFA (LOL) and after a 5+year break managed to climb into the top 50 highest rated warlocks in NA at like (2375) after that and being unable to find people willing to play with warlock with how bad of a state they were in (also on alliance)
i took a break and ended up coming back later on in the season around 8.1 changes with a real life friend on horde and was easily able to achieve gladiator within weeks(you can check level 120 achievement date on Spriest…) (also topping out at 2800mmr~ with a 10-0 winstreak(verfied by achieved earned date on my shadow priest for “hot streak or w.e it is”) WITHOUT VOICE CHAT with a RESTO SHAMAN after 8.1) just for that team to want to stop queing after 1 loss to benjiown (multi r1+ hunter)
your literally bragging about your rating that you got pre 8.1 as turbo when mmr was inflated then when i came back to the game with a real life friend and played on horde (after mmr deflation) i was able to achieve the same achievement as you (gladiator)
you say i havent been “2700” cause i dont have an achievement i literally got this before they even had an achievement for it (they added it because of inflations in the mmr system making this rating a non-achievement for idiots like you)
im not here to judge you and i had never mentioned anything personal about you until you decided to attack me instead of have a reasonable discussion
i will wait till the first cup/tournament and you can ask players why they are not playing destro lock in their main roster and they will answer “because its not good”
you know id actually take you up on that wargame offer if i had a single person to play(that hasnt quit BFA btw) 1 game more then their last gladiator win they needed for their personal achievement (have SS’s of me getting 10+ people their last gladiator win who would not play a single game after getting their last win they needed)
also i would argue that anyone within 500 rating of a turbo cleave player is infact above their level.
As did other classes? I don’t understand what your point is? Destro lock is def viable and you’re a derp for believing otherwise.
The point I was trying to make was that all the casters besides maybe mage are fairly even which was what I was saying in the first place. Destro is not bad and is 100% viable.
Haha I’m sure dude, that was a wonderful story I’m so amazed that you wre 2375 as a warlock top 50 wow. Anybody who knows me knows I hate turbo btw and never q it wowthugger .com says your highest is 2500 nice try btw hehe so ya you didn’t “have it” before achieve came out hehe ;).
But you literally said
Hmm if you don’t have anybody to war game with, how did you do war games in a meta that shifted Tuesday?? Interesting it’s funny how it’s now confirmed you haven’t q’d a game not even a war game in BfA season 2’s meta yet act like you know what you are talking about. You are clueless, at this point it’s either war game me or stop talking I’m done with you claiming you know what is good and what isn’t when you haven’t even q’d a single match. You are again, clueless as well as biased for claiming Destro locks are not “viable” as I said earlier anyone who is actually good at the game will tell you other wise.
your actually a complete moron and you wonder why i wasnt posting on my “main” before because i didnt want to argue with a complete dunce and waste my time over trivialities clearly the character your looking up is from the free 110 level boost you got with BFA can you be anymore stupid my god.
i got gladiator and 2700 things you called “achievements” almost a decade ago when i was a child. it took you like 10 straight seasons(stuck rival-duelist) playing to achieve what i achieved in 1 (months not years like you)
maybe if you spent your time learning the game instead of finding little things to nitpick for your personal attacks you wouldnt be so clueless and you might actually achieve something of note after playing for 10 straight seasons.
i dont have anyone that would waste their time wargaming a brainless mongoloid like you lol.
also how does a wargame prove anything other then the ability for an inactive player to find partners vs someone that has played the game for 12+ seasons straight and has 0 rank 1 titles to show for it?
yes i tried out a few different comps with some friends do you actually think they are going to waste the little time they have queing up vs you for a free win?
the only way it would be even a remotely unbiased exercise is if we somehow used lfg to form teams (without RNG proc’d big MALEDICT trinkets… etc… etc… you see where this nonsense is going?)
also ofcourse in your biased ways you look right past the fact that historically warriors have always been strong into warlocks and priests lmfao.
i played some wargames with and against friends, you think they really want to que into some facerolling warrior that thinks they are even remotely good(if you were you would have multiple rank 1 titles after playing 12 seasons in a row.)
and even if i do wargame you(and win obviously) your just going to cry that locks are OP like you have been doing the whole time lmao.)?
what does a victory in such an unbalanced game even prove? ive defeated featherfeet (who you say is good warlock) others that i consider to be the best (chanimals) etc does that make me better then them lol? no it doesnt.
i am not afraid to que a wargame into you, but you cannot que a wargame as 1 person. lol. does me beating crusader make me a better player then him? no it doesnt lmao, an arena victory proves nothing especially in the current state of the game.
tbh im sure some players will see your idiocy and offer to wargame maybe then you can have your wargame if they are willing to play into your delusions
where is the contradiction? most if not all the people ive played with have quit playing this game that you feel has any relevance to skill level
if skill means so much why did i get gladiator all the way back in 2009 and you were stuck with duelist for EIGHT YEARS it took you from 2009-2018 to get gladiator something i did as a CHILD?
not only that you played the game straight the entire time.
youve played this game the entire time i took breaks/quit for and it took you 9 years to achieve what i did almost over a decade ago as a child. and you try to personally attack and insult people instead of just make a valid point for discussion
Claims to know meta and what’s good vs bad from war games - and other sources like idk the people who design and balance the game?
Claims not afraid to war game but has no one - how this have to do with fear?
Claims again to not know anyone - that hasnt quit Beta For Azeroth?
Claims friends are good enough to know meta but not good enough to war game - when did i say anything remotely close to this?
Claims not afraid about war gaming but can’t queue solo. - can you que wargames solo is there something im missing?
Alright there bud, well with that I’m goin to bed this was pretty entertaining good luck with your future endeavors. Next time you make claims at least have a little proof of your own to back it up. - i did lol?
your the one who makes claims with nothing to back up it and when that fails you resort to personal attacks or trying to discredit the individual making a point instead of coming up with a valid point for discussion?
your right about one thing though it was entertaining almost as much as the trinket nonsense going on the last few days allowing players on a level as low as you to defeat top players like gorecki by “outplaying” them with your trinkets xD
queues? i told u i quit this unbalanced joke lol
see the difference between me and you is i know im bad and your delusional if you think you arent i mean come on my name is literally trash, you need to focus on improving if you continue to play this game instead of nitpicking peoples characters to personally attack them because you have no game knowledge to be able to make a valid point in any discussion related to the balance of the game
how can you make any claims to the strength of warlocks if you dont even play one?(haha i can play the oh you dont have enough personal experience to make a claim game to…)
the upcoming tournament will showcase just how biased and delusional you are, as warlocks are currently fighting ele shamans for the spot of worst caster
before the recent ele nerfs no 1 would come close to claiming they were the worst caster, now with their nerfs we will have to see if they are indeed worse then warlocks
sorry what was that link? 3rd party armory site of a free 110 boosted character that was included with BFA?
or a link to your 12 straight seasons of playing and still being stuck at gladiator (something i re-achieved within weeks"first season" of returning from a break) (post mmr nerf at that…)
you think in 12 straight seasons of playing a game you would achieve something more notable then a couple 100s points of rating in a season heavily invalidated by massive mmr nerfs and balance changes right in the middle causing activity to plummet and every rating achieved this season to be irrelevant
it makes me someone who wasnt playing the game during that period nor the character your so fond of spam linking being max level even LOL.
so i managed to compete in your bracket and not only learn a spec from the ground up (that was also recently completely changed) ontop of that i had to gear it up from scratch aswell without having a network of people to help me from playing the same for 12 seasons straight
wargaming you is a lose-lose when i win you will just complain that what i am playing is op (like you have been the entire thread) or just blame it on something else, there is no winning with empty headed people like you that instead of coming up with an intelligent point in a discussion on a forum have to resort to personal attacks
how does defeating you prove i am better then you?
weve already established i have defeated featherfeet who you confirmed as “good” so if i defeated him then by your logic i am “good” however i dont think that defeating someone in an arena match makes you better than them, because if it does then i am better then the current blizzcon world champions, crusader, chanimals(the warlock god) etc… it just simply doesnt.
same with you because, you have proved to me by your logic that i am good (defeating someone in arena makes you better than them and i have deafeated featherfeet which you confirmed as good earlier in this thread) so by your obviously biased and flawed logic you confirm me as a good player thank you very much
wowthugger .com says your highest is 2500 nice try btw hehe 
so ya you didn’t “have it” before achieve came out hehe ;).![:wink:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/wink.png?v=6" ":wink:")