Are locks good yet

right here^?

am i not hating i am trying to stop people spreading misinformation that may influence bad game designs decisions that are not healthy for the growth of the game especially considering the recent changes to the structure of the wow esports scene

We haven’t seen a tourney with 8.1 warlock though, so you saying “this is supported by them not getting a single win in a tournament game this expansion” doesn’t really support your claim.

Opinions are different, from what I’ve seen they’re def viable and they are a strong caster. I’d rather play a spriest/boomie than play Featherfeet with a WW/War/Mage any day of the week. That could be just because I’m a warrior and biased about destros atm though who knows.

youd rather play “A”(random sp/boomy) then a professional blizzcon qualified wow player whoda thunk it

personally i have defeated featherfeet in the arena (on another class then warlock it was a free win because of his class i am not saying i am better than him)
i would much rather que into featherfeet then wizk on spriest or samiyam on boomy LOL.

especially if i was playing a warrior like i once did with having such a powerful counter to them (reflect) you complain about 87k bolts why not just reflect that to the warlock then?( which it would be even higher since warrior has a passive 20% dmg reduction) unless you are complaining about getting bolted outside of D stance (LOL)

also forgot to add complaining about playing vs a warlock with 10x(300~ping from OCE) when your a warrior with reflect ontop of the normal toolkit to shut down a warlock ( it cant be that hard to reflect a warlocks bolt who has a handicap of a 1/3rd of a second delay more than you)

He keeps coming up with 87k bolts, I haven’t gotten hit with anything higher than a 60k too so far but I’ve only been q’ing up to 1900 mmr - 1800 cr so far.

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you know demon armor does absolutely nothing (actually it increases the damage you take against the best spec in the meta (g py fire mage) LOL and other caster classes etc, even sin rogue udk etc do almost all magic damage LOL

im sure alot of warlock players would be happy to trade demon armor for a flat 20% damage reduction lol

you should have trinket(2mincd) and a cooldown to stop destros 4–6 second big burst window every 3 mins so yes you should have something to save you everytime… which will be showcased in the upcoming tournament

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you probly arent seeing 87k bolts because unlike him you probly dont sit in LoS letting the warlock freecast into you without doing anything to stop him or using any defensive cd while sitting in battle stance

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how does an increase of armor lower the damage GREATER PYROBLAST DOES (35% of max hp)??? you quote me but are literally clueless about what your talking about

oh i guess i should add also D stance reduces the damage the new op trinket does to you and demon armor does NOT lol

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You realize that we lose 20% damage when we’re in dstance right? you also realize we have a 6 second cd between bstance/dstance. This isn’t about “demon armor v dstance” it’s about you having this crazy idea that warlocks are dog :poop: without even playing in the meta and basing your opinions on past positions of the class, streams, and what other people have said to you.

Warlocks(Destro) do not suck, they are perfectly viable you are delusional if you think otherwise. Again, you are clueless and also kind of a wimp for not even posting on your main while trying to bash someone else. You claim to know how the meta works, and what’s good vs not good without even playing the game LOL jeez I’ve seen dense but this takes the cake.

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you mean just like the people that design and balance this game for a living?
and yes i know the interactions of classes i talk about unlike some others…

No you don’t lmao you haven’t even played this season you said it yourself. I’m pretty sure you’re a warlock main, prove me wrong post on main.

how about actually presenting some evidence to support your claims and refute mine instead of personally attacking me… i am posting on my new main(woo m+ fotm reroll) i transferred my characters to my other bnet account and am waiting for my sub (from wow tokens) to run out unless they fix this nonsense(unlikely after what was said in the QnA)

for the record i play disorient Dr caster classes sp/boomy/lock/rdruid/disc/hpriest/feral(in that order) (used to play warrior/dk woo time to pick up dh and faceroll to victory)

Post on main or shhh :wink:

“main” is on an inactive bnet that apparently im not allowed to post from despite being a blizzard(wow customer for the better part of a decade)? unfortunate for you i guess, i even admitted to your accusation and told you which classes i play and in the order i prefer to play them (if they are playable)

well actually since you were so adamant about finding my main i tried to post from an inactive character and it actually allowed me (maybe because the transfer was recent or something? idk) but instead of focusing your efforts on which class i main how about actually presenting some valueable ideas for discussion?

I already did, warlocks are def not worse than spriest/boomie if you think so you’re clearly not playing your warlock correctly. Again, a l2p issue, even then how would you KNOW? You haven’t played in the meta this season yet, you’re clueless and basing your opinions on BFA S1.

I stand by warlocks not being bad and being viable because they are 100%, they are no worse than spriest/boomie and def not terrible not in the slighest. A good warlock is terrifying rn, hence why I brought Feather up not to complain but because he is good and scary to play against. You’re either extremely biased, really this clueless or both.

if you think spriest/boomy is worse then warlock then you are clearly not playing your warrior correctly, again an l2p issue if warlocks are so good why was i able to reroll a class and easily defeat (free win) a warlock you consider “good” within weeks of learning the spec?

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Destru is really good. Demo is good if you have partners willing and wanna make it work. Aff just seems horrid atm.

Again you haven’t even played since s1, your claims don’t mean anything. Feather is good, I played him 2 days ago and both my dk and I were dying at the same time vs his ww/destro/mw. Can’t tell if you’re trolling or not calling him a free win, you’ve never even been past 2500 LOL.

ive done wargames in this meta to get a feel for the meta before deciding it was not worth to play ladder 3s? how is playing placement games anymore effective?
yes i never denied feather is good i only said that i qued into him and won and it was a free win because he was on warlock and i was on shadow priest?

you played vs his WW/destro/MW and you and your dk were both dying at the same time(l2p issue) also your saying WW and MW are strong? theres no denying that lol you can but any other spec/class with those 2 and it will be good / if not better then a lock?

you wonder why i didnt originally post on my main so you can flame the rating i achieve(gladiator) in a few weeks? (also hadnt played the game for FIVE years before that?) so i was able to match your achievements with a couple weeks of trying despite not playing for 5 years and youve had much more time then me to be better?
yet i am on or above your level in mere weeks… plus what exactly is the point of even pushing during BETA FOR AZEROTH s1 i got my glad then helped other friends get it like everyone else (who wasnt sitting rating they achieved pre 8.1 with inflated mmr) (like you probly playing mw turbo :wink: )?

i like how you were replying to this post then stopped and deleted what you were going to say because you have nothing valueable to add to the discussion except personal attacks

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Sorry I’m trying to do timewalking rn, so typing little by little.

Sure you do, you q’d into him in season 1, again a different meta. So because you can beat him as an spriest makes warlocks bad? Again flawed logic, I bet you wouldn’t even get close to beating him in current meta.

Any good player will tell you that destro is not bad, not even in the slightest and is a very good spot. Yes, WW and MW are strong, Destro is too and it is perfectly viable, Gore said that Destro/Fire mage were the two best casters in the game rn, so I’ll use your logic, you going to argue vs his opinion (a multi r1 tourney player) vs your own because you happen to do a few war games vs god knows who? Good joke dude.

A few weeks huh? Looks more like it took you months to get BfA gladiator dude 9/23 Duelist-1/19 Gladiator when mmr was inflated to hell. You’re clearly not on my level or near it you’re 2500 I’m 2850. I have 2700 achieve, you do not. find that people who claim that “I didn’t feel like pushing” were usually people who struggled to get the BfA title period hence the months it took you and needing inflation to do so.

If you want to judge me because I’m telling you that Destro is not bad at all, not in the slighests go for it but you are wrong and good players will tell you so. You claims have no proof because you’re basing them on BfA s1 and that’s a fact.

If you’re so determined to claim it’s a l2p issue on my part, go ahead and add me Kydrav#1515 and we can war game.