dont care about logs. classic is a pvp game.
thread is about pvp
People who think boomy is good at PvP are 1200 rating andies⌠sure I can top kills every BG, but thats because im a ranged class with an instant cast, this is a horrible metric. In any 1v1 situation you are fodder. Your only defensives are rune slots and are mediocre at best, given the rest of your kit. You have no usable CC and no interupt.
People will cry and say âbut but but you have NG, and Rootsâ great, shadowstep, warbringer, bestial wrath, trinket, gnome racial, power shift. Roots are a waste of a cast 90% of the time.
My pvp options are to pray for a starfire crit and hope I kill my target before they kill me, with all the added gap closer, I cant even shift and kite, even ret pallies can catch up to travel form. The class is in a horrible state, and even for pve, where it may be âfineâ our idiot fires of elune rune, keeps bugging out and resetting.
Obviously you dont raid. Balance is decent in pvp with a healer. I play both pvp and pve, pvp we are on par, pve we are in the gutter. A buff is needed for many casters in pve. theye are sitting way subpar based on logs.
Because you dont play a boomy
Boomy in SERIOUS needs of buffs. Mana cost on spells are so stupid high we have to down rank our main ability.
pvp its pretty bad unless youâre standing in the back of a rando bg not getting touched
Idk I love pvping on my druid. Maybe im just used to suffering on warrior? but it feels like this is broken!
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i pvp as feral and boomy and boomy feels fine
âsure i dominate in group pvp, the only relevant pvp format but thats a useless metric. i can still lose 1v1sâ
you guys keep crying and ill keep inviting the boomies on my flist everytime i pvp
Wait, you crit 10% of the time? How can I get a load of that?
I swear since the scaling of levelling to 50 Iâm only getting the 3% crit from Boomy aura 
Picked up a few pieces from ST so hopefully it feels like it changes, but man it feels bad at the moment. I get maybe a single crit out of my whole mana pool 
They donât dominate the bgs im in.
Pretty simple, kill targets start with boomy. Healer/spriest.
Letting them free cast all day doesnât mean theyâre op. If youâre letting em send starfire nukes then your group is terrible
i heal. im the one making sure your time focusing a 5kish armor boomkin is well spent
I havent played too much bgs yet but I dont see mana being an issue. Starsurge is basically free and wrath is free. In a pinch you still got those 2 spells available at all times.
Shiftting to cheetah 148, back into boomkin 260
Wildgrowth is 595, Regrowth which is a 2 sec cast is 560
So lets say youâre out in world on your mount and you decide to engage someone.
Hop off mount into chicken =260 mana.
Star surge into starfire ( if you can even cast it ) 9+250 mana, Sunfire 112 moonfire 115
Say its a rogue, abolish psn pre = 170
Cheetah away to create space =148, back into chicken 260
You get and need to heal, WG = 595, Rejuv 214
So almost 2k mana for 1 person
This isnât counting spellls like
Barksin
roots
Faerie fire
Having to power shift multiple times to get away from traps/slows.
Natureâs grasp
Hibernate
Remove curse.
Regrowth if you need it as a heal is 560
Druid has a big kit to utilize but in SOD its just not possible. Were back to oomkins.
If youâre shifting multiple times being disruptive and off healing the mana cost are just absurd.
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Boomkin is broken in PvP. They are disgustingly tanky with tons of HoT healing and great burst damage.
Feral right now could use some help as they donât do any damage. Savage Roar / Shred is their main damage and itâs just too hard to use both in PvP. They just need to get rid of savage roar honestly.
5 moonkin groups in BM are the most digusting things in this event. None wants to get near to them.
OP might be smoking when making this thread.
Iâm not even sure itâs even âfineâ balance is horrible in PvE even without the mana issues.
Our runes are just trash, Fires of Elune is the worst.
Like wth it refreshes Sunfire with Starsurge but doesnât increase duration of Moonfire with Starsurge. Refreshing with Wrath is likeâŚmaybe 50% maybe 33%.
I swear I go âok my 3 refreshes must be usedâ (because it isnât being extended) only for the 2nd Wrath to extend it and Iâm like âguess not!â.
We have zero good runes, and P3 has easily been the worst of them.
idk i just tank people in caster on my resto dru
tbh I think fires is just bugged, I have no idea whats going on with it, but its so annoying to play around.
Quite simply, Azeroth.
No you donât. Youâre tanking literal potatoes.
Youâre on living flame I have a rogue there. Come show me how you âtankâ in caster form. What time you going to be on?
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The biggest issue with blance pvp, is that your âoptionâ in many situations is just to fish for a crit.
No kick leaves us super vunerable to opposing casters, and most melee can get out of roots (warbringer, Shadowstep, Blessing of Freedom).
There is certainly counterplay, but a lot of it is entierly dependant on the skill level of your opponent.
Example:
I farm warriors all the time, with just NG > Shift > range Charge > hard roots > nuke.
But if they had a brain⌠Charge > Hammy > fear the NS / Shift > intercept > rehammy. Im probably dead? I now have to barkskin, or warstomp, try and reset roots which are likely DRed, or fish for a starfire proc while juking pummel.
TL;DR boomy is strong if you ignore them, otherwise they are free.