It was really interesting to watch classic when Phase 2 came out… and the realm faction imbalances were really obvious.
The Alliance (including myself) complained a lot… and the Horde called us care bears and cry babies. That was until the Horde on really Alliance dominated pvp realms joined in…and complained just as loud.
An unbalanced game hurts both factions. An unbalanced game helps Blizzard’s bottom line.
Alliance didn’t. Void Elves got Blood Elves skin colors, they didn’t not get hair colors, ear customization, hair styles, and jewellery options. People need to stop equating the ability to change skin color with getting the entire race. Blood Elves remain the superior elf option
If being vilanized, having ALL classic characters either dead or vilanized and spending the entire expansion with the narrative hammering in your head that you are the bad guy is Blizzard’s way to be ‘‘Horde biased’’ I’d really want to see them being ‘‘Alliance biased’’ for a change.
Oh and let’s not forget that the ALLIANCE WON THIS WAR.
Skin color is a major difference from jewelry and the like.
If it wasn’t, we would see creatures different based on their jewelry rather than skin.
Skin color is a major difference psychologically.
By what I mean is that it is a major identifier. Jewelry is immediately seen as an accessory and not a defining trait of any race.
But not the only one. Saying Alliance get the Blood Elves race aesthetic based on skin color alone is incorrect.
EDIT: What do people think of when they think “elf”? I’m going to guess one of the things is “pointy ears”, which makes ears another major identifier for Fantasyland races. Will Void Elves get the ability to customize ear shapes like Blood Elves? At the moment there is no indication they will.
It is not incorrect.
If you take the two and put them side by side, they’re identical.
Trying to use jewelry doesn’t change what is there.
Once that image is there, you really can’t erase it.
As I explained in my above posts, because ears are often thought of as racial identifiers when talking about elves these aspects are also a major identifier. That Blood Elves can completely customize their ear sizes whereas void elves can’t means they differ significantly in an aspect that is used as a major identifier to Elven races. So they objectively cannot be called the same aesthetically.
We don’t know if they can or cannot, and if they cannot, it would not make sense since they were former blood elves.
Even then it wouldn’t matter, because anomalous differences is an expectation within a species/race. It doesn’t change what they look like.
You don’t look at someone and go “he is a different kind of human because he has bigger ears.”.
Same for dwarfism and gigantism
And those differences are enough to separate them which means they aren’t the same aesthetically
Because humans primary identifiers don’t include ears. If there are a sub race of dwarves larger than normal dwarves than they would be different because size is a key characteristic to dwarves
Anomalies are expected within a race. When those anomalies affect key aspects of a race’s physiology and they have grown and become segragated from each other it is usually enough to consider them part of their own category.
Ears, an aspect key to an Elf’s physiology is one such aspect.
You’re arguing a strawman. I never said they would be a different race I said they would be distinguished as a separate sub race.
Like I said before, your dwarves would be considered a sub-set of dwarves because they are not the same aesthetically. Your example actually helped my point.
Never said they weren’t.
But they’re not the same aesthetically as a Blood Elf.
Blizzard has shown ear customizations for Blood Elves while not on Void Elves and they have stated specifically that Void Elves will only gain Blood Elves skin color. They did not specify all customization options. Until Blizzard confirm or show otherwise why would people just set themselves up for disappointment.
I think you are not understanding the point. The only difference between these dwarves, and the metal dwarves, is purely that one is metal is one is not, but they are still considered dwarves.
Hence, why their large physiological differences are so small.
This is no different than a red swallow, and a blue swallow being considered a type of swallow.
The bare the same characteristics outside of color.
If these color characteristics were to be the same, they would not know the difference.
This does indeed happen in biology where you have to actually sequence the DNA to find out they are different subspecies.
Yes, yes they are based on what they provided.
Same skin tones.
The mass majority of information found has been datamined. Everything else is not official.
Void elves werent getting any options, but that clearly did not occur. So it is all in the air and we cannot make assumptions.
I’m sure we’re due for all the reasons none of those victories count but only the “victory” that the horde has been bludgeoned with since it happened does.
We get into murky territory when we talk about species, because to be classified as the same species they must be able to intermingle and breed.
“Hey Blizzard, can Void Elves breed with Blood Elves” is a question I’m almost certain they won’t answer.
A key indicator of an elven race is their ear shape and ear size. Blood Elves are confirmed to be able to customize what is a key, identifying aspect of the Elven race whereas Void Elves cannot. This difference in what is a key aspect of Elven physiology means that right now Blood Elves are different from Void Elves aesthetically.
And that is objectively speaking.
No, that is how things work. Things are the way they are until a change is confirmed. Right now Blood Elves are confirmed to be changing in ways Void Elves are not. The confirmed information we have means they are different aesthetically
When I see someone complain in one breath about reskinned races, and then in the next complaining that Blizzard did not want to literally copy/paste a race onto the opposite faction it just… makes me laugh right down to my gnomish soul.
Well given the fact BfA can be summed as ‘‘Sylvanas’s plans where all foiled and everything Anduin wanted happened’’ I think it’s fair to say Alliance was pretty privileged this expansion.