I’ve been thinking about this since I race changed to Void Elf, obviously our characters in game are considered Void Elves regardless of customization, but are those Silvermoon Scholars and High Elven Wayfarers considered Ren’dorei too? Because I imagine the non-blueberry variant of Void Elves to have gone a process closer to Alleria’s than the original group, since they mostly maintain their Quel’dorei looks aside from the obvious unwashed hair.
Of course, we can at best speculate since Blizzard hasn’t really updated the Void Elf lore, so I was wondering what the community thinks.
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Yes. That is the entire point of the race.
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My personal take is that Quel’dorei, Sin’dorei and Ren’dorei are just titles for the same race with differing points of focus and obviously faction alignment. While the original Ren’dorei group’s existence came about due to physical void-induced changes, I don’t think it would be strange for a non-altered ‘dorei’ to consider themselves a Void Elf if they practiced with void magic. Conversely, a Sin’dorei or Quel’dorei Shadow practitioner doesn’t make them a void elf if they choose not to align with that title.
However, once they’re ‘altered’ I feel like it’d be hard to NOT be a Ren’dorei, since the physical changes to any degree are a cornerstone of the identity.
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This is all just how i take it personally; I dont think it has been stated outright.
Quel’dorei and Sin’dorei are obviously the same race but name difference based on personal preference. To me, Ren’dorei is not the same way. They were forcibly physically altered almost to the point of being void monsters. That is down to the DNA level, so i dont think just Sin’dorei and Quel’dorei scholars under Alleria would truly count as Ren’dorei.
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Depends on who you ask.
At the end of the day, just be what you want to be. There’s not enough lore one way or another to draw a hard line in the sand, and I don’t think the devs want that anyways. You can absolutely be a Void Elf like Alleria, who retains their natural appearance. No one’s going to argue with you, and if they do, just ignore them. People so upset over your choices with your character for such an insignificant premise, are not worth listening to or conversing with.
Your character is what you want them to be.
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I am with Zitga on this.
Sindorei and Queldorei is really only about nomenclature and politics. Kaelthas stood about a group of Queldorei and said they would be Sindorei - other Queldorei did not go with it.
Rendorei is a more complicated alteration.
I don’t think a Sindorei could just be a Rendorei because they identify as one or something. But maybe they can become one if they have some sort of Void Baptism going on we don’t know about.
To put it bluntly- I think the fact that they are not Rendorei speaks to the fact that they are not Rendorei.
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Ren’dorei in my understanding is simply more than a high elf or blood elf that uses void magic.
With no official information on the details whatsoever, this is purely speculative on my part and I’ve been rolling with as my headcanon:
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Alleria and the first batch of void elves were permanently infused and changed with void magic, (I assume in a similar sense like Light forging of draeneis and Turalyon).
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The High Elf wayfareers and Silvermoon Scholars are not Void Elves yet, but on the process of becoming one, I assume that Alleria and Umbric developed a way of “voidforging” other elves in a similar fashion that they went through, though in a more safe way with more or less side effects varying from person to person, and that is why you have some void elves that look just like regular high elves, and some will have tentacles and all that jazz.
This to me makes more sense as some interviews last year pointed out to character customization options being all possible in canon.
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Yeah I think so… or so I understood from Legion.
I’m genially curious how the leadership of the Void/Blood/Darkfallen/High elf work because one would think they would follow Noble family or Royal Family like when the Sunstrider were alive, but even if its not intentional it seems to be leaning always to Matriarchy like the Night elves and Nightborn.
I’m not against it but at least for my Character Elves (even my new Night Elf Warlock) I’m so done with the Windrunner Family squabbles!
I almost wish their dead brother Lirath Windrunner (maybe as a Darkfallen?) was around to see if he could settle the matter and this stupid division of our people. (Sorry my RPC side head canon took over)
Oh BTW does anyone one know if you get special dialog with the Darkfallen skin or Night warrior eyes with any NPC or events in WoW?
I kind of wish it had more of an impact than just a cosmetic option… but maybe I might be asking too much, who know how hard it be to code that in such an old game as WoW.
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They basically baptized in the void they are a new race.
Quel’thalas is functionally a republic at this point (although more like Cromwell than a modern democracy), and despite what noble rpers in SMC may have memed themselves into believing, there’s generally little indication of feudalism like the humans. There was a council of important magisterial families (the convocation) which may or may not have included the windrunners (who seem to have been more or less hereditary ranger generals but more as a tradition than a rule (Lor’themar became ranger general when Sylvanas died as Vereesa was too young and outside the country afair), although tbf there’s been like 4 RGs in the 7000 years between the founding and the scourge)
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Void elves literally have old god appendages growing out of their heads.
They are changed.
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That doesn’t neccesarily change your race. I mean, for example, Deathwing didn’t really stop being a dragon or Galakrond being a proto dragon even after they were clearly filled with void energy and had physical changes.
In that sense, they are still Elves.
Elves of a different type.
Midnight may make the bickering between Elven types pointless. More information on what makes what would be welcome.
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Watch the Sunwell be converted into a fountain of both Void and Light somehow, making Azeroth an Arcane, Void and Light powerhouse.
But for real, I get the feeling they are trying to make Azeroth into the “ultimate being”, capable of wielding all cosmological energies to be the protector of Reality and keeper of balance. I mean, at this point, the Jailer has touched it with Death, Elune with Life, Sargeras with Fel, Azeroth is a Titan, so Arcane is covered, all we need now is Light and Void.
Edit: completely forgot about the Black Empire, Void is technically already covered.
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Race isn’t a formal biology term I believe, so it doesn’t really have a specific definition.
Kultirans, Gilneans, Gilnean worgens, forsaken and “humans” are all the same species, just different ethnicities (and magical effects).
Dodgy topic. Alleria acquired her sparkly tattoos and void form glitch in a completely different way than Umbric’s cult, themselves transformed in an irreplicable ritual, but she’s as much a void elf as they are. Given she was the first ren’dorei to identify herself as such, she probably came up with the moniker.
One could take those scholars and wayfarers in the rift to indicate a new generation of blood elves/high elves are taking the void pill. But I don’t imagine their nameplates will change to “Ren’dorei Scholar” until the process, whatever that looks like, is complete.
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Which again doesn’t change anyone’s race. Cho’gall was still an ogre when he died. Even after all his mutations.
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::He would casually gesture to demon hunters.::
Yes, finally you get it. If getting literal wings doesn’t change your race. Neither does tentacles.