Archon addon is the line we shouldn't cross

There is a lot of life changer add-on like Questie, bags add-ons, DBM, weak auras and etc that are really just here to help through your gameplay. These add-ons don’t generate any toxicity at all and are just fine by design.

But then you have data add-ons , like damage meters, raider. Io (retails), sims , and now the upcoming “Archon add-on” which in a way, violates the privacy of gamers and generates so much toxicity in the community. It force you to play the way the 1% no-life players want you to play and even if I personally like to be optimal in my gameplay, I can agree that sometimes I have no fun doing so. Sometimes you just want to f*ck around and have fun with your class.

-You are a Shockadin doing 600 dps instead of 800 from rets? Not taken

-You want to try affliction lock and see how well you can do with the new cool Trinquet you got from the portal’s? Nope , be a destro common now

-you are a feral with omen talented because the gameplay is more fun , nah bro totems don’t walk on their owns , chill

It’s all these things that kills the flavors of what SOD is supposed to be , just a fun experience with the community with cool new skills in the world of classic. But those add-ons turn it into to much sweat for nothing.

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If you do what you’re supposed to in the run, then you have nothing to worry about. Raids require contribution from all members. Why do you feel entitled to go, but not contribute?

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I agree, stop this cancer from spreading before it too late

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RestedXP was the line we shouldn’t have crossed and it set an example. It isn’t talked about because all discussions addressed by Devs now are brought up by Influencers, and all influencers are making money off this garbage.

Soon we’ll be seeing Metagoblin talk about how incredible Archon is and how with his code we can get 10% off

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There have been leveling guides and addons since 2004.

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Then look it up on your website, keep it out of the game. I’d rather not encourage more exclusion then there already is.

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I am not a lawyer. Maybe there is a lawyer around or a LARPer with skills who can tell us if a website can gather data on us without explicit permission or a disclosure. I think they can. But how does that work with wow’s TOS. Is there an issue with third parties tracking you through blizzard’s wow?

I don’t worry too much about this in particular, but I am happy to see folks with concerns like these. People are always going on about the government tracking them when companies do it with little or no oversight. It is good to encourage folks to investigate.

Good job keeping your eyes open. Just don’t close them outside wow.

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The addon is an issue because it’s a paid for service. I agree on that point it should be banned.

The OP is complaining not about that, but that people can see him not contributing at all the the group that he is in. He doesn’t want to be excluded based off not filling the role he was invited to fill. He wants to be carried and for no one in the run to be able to hold him accountable for doing nothing.

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The OP is complaining about private and public companies surveiling private citizens.

Don’t dumb these subjects down.

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WCL data is generated by your local client and uploaded to the website by individual users. It’s not personal data. There’s nothing you can do about it.

Can’t it be someone else’s client. I actually know the answer here. Not sealioning, but rhetorical.

My personal issue, and the one that I hope the OP is concerned with, is that people can be tracked without their knowledge.

I think this is an example of people tracking people without their explicit knowledge.

It’s mundane… just game data. But this is a slippery slope aint it?

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You didn’t read his post at all. He explicitly states he wants to play his own way and doesn’t care about the other 19 people’s time he’s wasting. He wants the data hidden so people can’t see this is happening as they spend hours of their time wiping on bosses as he ignores his role in the raid.

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You’re on the internet. Everything you’re doing on the internet is tracked. Your log data is not personally identifying information. If they were attaching your SSN, home address, name, phone number, and bank account information to your logs you might have a case. Video game statistics for how much damage you’re doing isn’t going to get you anywhere.

Again the logs are uploaded by someone in the run you’re doing. The website doesn’t gather data on its own. It is willingly provided to them by the people generating the data on their local client.

Meh. Like I said. I hope the OP has more purposeful intentions.

Websites tracking folks without permission is not cool.

It starts with game data and next thing you know they are tracking everything you do.

BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING :eye:

It is done with permission and consent from the person uploading the data to WCL.

Dude… are you trolling or dumb.

It tracks people who are not uploading anything. Blizzard owns the rights to the data. But is that still legit.

It isn’t ethical

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All combat data is logged on each individual users local client. If they’re in your party, they can see your combat data. You are consenting to share your combat data by joining a party. Then someone in your party is taking the log data, which you consented to be apart of, and uploading it to WCL.

It has no personally identifying or protected information in it. There is no legal or ethical issue with sharing this data. It’s a video game.

It’s not rocket appliances.

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If you join someone’s party you’re consenting to them having your combat data.

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Not if they don’t stipulate that they’re in fact logging.

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Archon addon is against TOS and blizzard doesnt do anything. its clearly written All addons shall be free.

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