My mage is 636. Can someone tell me why arcane barrage tooltips for 44k damage and blast is 131k.
What on EARTH is this. LOL
As long as i ramp up for a solid minute with full cds i could do the same as one ferocious bite.
I am just messing around on it for fun but i am genuinely stunned how badly tuned this is.
Ill tell you why they hit like that if you can tell me why my pyroblast hits for 450k
Fire is significantly better than this. Its not even close.
Fire is weak vs frost but this is a whole other level of stupid. They may as well delete the entire spec leaving it this way.
It takes a 4 second arcanosphere channel to do 750k damage.
Fire isnt great but arcane is a joke. I am actually shocked how bad it is
Im not sure how they are allowed to be this bad for so long. Especially with frost and frostfire consistently getting buffs and only small nerfs to actual frost stuff.
Yeah but during your evocation/surge/touch window your blast is 1.4m with pom and your barrage is 800k-1.2m depending.
Arcane’s sustain damage feels on the weak side compared to stuff like Dev, frost, Aff, etc. and it’s CD’s are easier to shut down due to one school… which is why you don’t see it a ton in competitive play and every mage was commenting Kubzy would’ve done better as Frost.
Arcane is great. Other classes reach into a bag, and pull out big damage.
Arcane has to crack a safe to get the bag before pulling out the damage. And that’s every encounter. Oh and you’ve got maybe 15% health left by the time you’ve cracked the safe.
Frost just gaps both other mage specs so much it’s silly. Better in every single way, to an absurd degree.
Sounds like Arcane plays like Enhancement Shaman. You stand there doing tickle damage until the DPS offs because they’re laughing at how easy you are to ignore, then all of a sudden you go, ‘‘you know what? Screw it.’’ Rip Ascendance and start Wind Blasting everything for 800k whilst tossing out 1.2mil Tempests.
All of a sudden their whole team is on the ground studying their combat logs and you’re just stood there in the back like:
Was kubzy just playing arcane in the AWC as a clever ruse?
Yes. It isnt good. An r1 player doing something does not always make it ideal. Weird comment.
There is no other spec in the game as easily shut down and slow to ramp as arcane.
You dont even see them in simple bgs anymore because its so awful.
The damage profile requires 29 years of freecasting to do damage, MUST use cooldowns to do that, and the window of time to do damage is small.
Needing to use every single cd and freecast for 15 seconds to ramp up to the damage one feral does in 2s all day, or a hunter opens with RF immediately without cooldowns is just silly.
I dont think any spec in the game is as bad as arcane rn.
A R1 player playing against other R1 players? If it’s so easy to shut down why weren’t they? If it’s not ideal why wouldn’t he be playing a more ideal spec in a tournament setting? Obv it’s not as bad as you think
It means it has the capability to be good, just higher skill floor than other specs, and a higher skill cap too maybe.
But that should be welcomed. Wanting that to change is what’s actually weird.
Ah so what you want to just walk out press missiles to the same effect?
Kubzy quit his team and they haven’t won since first cup
I understand there might have been conflict related to his spec choice and refusal to play others leading up to him quitting the team
Maybe he said he wanted to play fire and they insta lobbed him.
Imagine how awful it would be if arcane got unkickable missiles that hit as hard as rapid fire does?
Lmao holy crap
He also got bullied on arcane mage pretty much every single match he played it because it’s defensively weak.
Hey! I played fire vs him and axtin in awc quals!
It was an honorable 0-3 angle
but maybe deep down I planted the fire seed and inspired him
Don’t worry, the mage forums are telling me fire is gonna be OP tomorrow because we get a bunch of damage buffs! all rejoice.
People saying the same about arcane and I’m hopeful it’s true. Would be nice not to be a victim class into Aff, feral, etc.
Arcane missiles in 636 gear hits for 550k.
A hard casted fully buffed 4 charge AB is 1.2 to 1.4 m
People have 8.5 to 9m health.
I think youre being incredibly disingenuous with how bad the spec is given other classes damage profile and mobility.
You are really suggesting its viable to sit and hardcast abilities for 15% of someones health right now and that 15% requires EVERY cooldown available?
Sorry thats just absurd. No other spec has the kind of ramp up and ability to be shut down as arcane. None. You name it and we can debate. Warrior can be CCd, but also is all instants and little ramp up time at all with MS capable of hitting harder and waaay more frequently than a fully buffed hard casted AB and warrior isnt even considered very good right now.
A normal unbuffed no cd AB is hardcasted for 125k damage.
The orb does like 200k. A 4 second charged arcanosphere is 800k damage.
The spec is ridiculously bad.
Its slippery but what does that matter if you need 40 years to do any damage?