[Apr/May/June 2020] SEA - Increased Latency on Oceanic Realm

Another user pointed out that the AAG undersea cable is still undergoing repairs and will be back to nornal by 22nd April. The cable runs more than 20,000 kilometers (12,420 miles), connecting Southeast Asia with the U.S., passing through Brunei, Hong Kong, Malaysia, the Philippines, Singapore, Thailand and Vietnam.

tbh i have not lag since i woke up at 7am till now

It doesn’t make sense because i’m playing Diablo 3 without having a single lag, now i’m sitting at orgrimmar with 500-1,2k ms doing nothing.

|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|                                      WinMTR statistics                                   |
|                       Host              -   %  | Sent | Recv | Best | Avrg | Wrst | Last |
|------------------------------------------------|------|------|------|------|------|------|
|                1.1.168.192.in-addr.arpa -    0 |  392 |  392 |    0 |    0 |    7 |    0 |
|                             61.94.112.1 -    0 |  392 |  392 |    1 |   22 |  334 |    2 |
|               45.0.160.125.in-addr.arpa -    0 |  392 |  392 |    0 |    1 |   25 |    3 |
|               97.171.94.61.in-addr.arpa -    0 |  392 |  392 |    0 |    1 |   15 |    1 |
|             54.190.240.180.in-addr.arpa -    0 |  392 |  392 |   16 |   16 |   21 |   16 |
|             53.190.240.180.in-addr.arpa -   71 |  102 |   30 |    0 |   18 |   47 |   15 |
|            153.192.240.180.in-addr.arpa -   13 |  258 |  225 |  240 |  244 |  308 |  289 |
|            153.192.240.180.in-addr.arpa -   17 |  237 |  198 |  239 |  244 |  315 |  240 |
|                eqix-ix-la1.blizzard.com -    0 |  392 |  392 |  186 |  191 |  294 |  186 |
|              ae1-br01-eqla1.as57976.net -   13 |  257 |  224 |  243 |  247 |  344 |  244 |
|        et-0-0-2-br01-swlv10.as57976.net -    0 |  389 |  389 |  190 |  225 | 2299 |  191 |
|        et-0-0-0-pe01-swlv10.as57976.net -    0 |  392 |  392 |  192 |  194 |  293 |  192 |
|              2.105.221.137.in-addr.arpa -    0 |  392 |  392 |  192 |  192 |  200 |  192 |
|________________________________________________|______|______|______|______|______|______|
   WinMTR v0.92 GPL V2 by Appnor MSP - Fully Managed Hosting & Cloud Provider

It shows 2,2k ms from Blizzard hop. Even my arena team mate from US was lagging playing with me with 32ms home and 600ms world.

I don’t think AAG was the problem because we just started lagging since last time server restart at 11PM +7 GMT few days ago

Now i can’t even enter Diablo 3 as well. This is frustating

Just entered into a Twin Peaks BG: Note I did an AV 20 min before hand with 0 lag. I had been doing world quests with 0 lag.

The moment I enter this BG the lag has creeped up

WinMTR Statistics

WinMTR statistics

Host % Sent Recv Best Avrg Wrst Last
dsldevice.lan 0 84 84 0 0 2 0
203-219-198-53.tpgi.com.au 0 84 84 7 7 11 8
203-219-199-193.tpgi.com.au 0 84 84 7 8 12 8
syd-tpg-wat-crt2-ge-3-1.static.tpgi.com.au 0 84 84 53 57 65 60
syd-apt-ros-int1-eth8-3.tpgi.com.au 0 84 84 55 58 64 59
ix-et-0-0-2-0.tcore1.lvw-los-angeles.as6453.net 0 84 84 231 232 246 232
las-b24-link.telia.net 10 61 55 230 230 236 230
blizzard-ic-348620-las-b24.c.telia.net 19 49 40 0 232 277 253
ae1-br01-csla1.as57976.net 0 84 84 228 229 280 228
xe-0-0-1-3-br01-eqla1.as57976.net 0 84 84 228 234 325 238
et-0-0-2-br01-swlv10.as57976.net 6 67 63 235 238 277 254
et-0-0-0-pe01-swlv10.as57976.net 0 84 84 229 232 312 230
137.221.105.2 0 84 84 228 228 235 228

The problem here is not with my ISP or my home connection. We can clearly see an issue at
las-b24-link.telia. net and blizzard-ic-348620-las-b24.c.telia. net

Another winMRT done on the other IP address provided:

WinMTR Statistics

WinMTR statistics

Host % Sent Recv Best Avrg Wrst Last
dsldevice.lan 0 112 112 0 0 2 0
203-219-198-53.tpgi.com.au 0 112 112 6 7 9 8
203-219-199-193.tpgi.com.au 0 112 112 7 7 10 8
syd-tpg-wat-crt2-ge-3-1.static.tpgi.com.au 0 112 112 52 57 62 57
syd-apt-ros-int1-hu0-3-0-2.tpgi.com.au 0 112 112 52 57 63 59
ix-et-0-0-2-0.tcore1.lvw-los-angeles.as6453.net 0 112 112 231 232 251 232
las-b24-link.telia.net 12 77 68 229 230 252 230
blizzard-ic-348620-las-b24.c.telia.net 20 65 52 0 234 289 231
ae1-br02-csla1.as57976.net 0 112 112 267 269 315 274
xe-0-0-1-3-br02-eqla1.as57976.net 0 112 112 267 273 370 309
et-0-0-3-br02-eqch2.as57976.net 0 112 112 294 299 389 298
et-0-0-1-pe02-eqch2.as57976.net 0 112 112 265 267 372 266
chi-eqch2-ia-bons-02.as57976.net 0 112 112 267 268 270 268
24.105.62.129 0 112 112 267 268 271 268

Once again, the same two areas are the problem.

This is not an issue from my ISP. This is clearly an issue at either a pre-blizzard node or with your servers.

I am currently watching the BG I just finished winning play itself out 5 minutes after the victory.

This is an ongoing issue, affecting MANY oceanic players. There are multiple threads about this. This is extremely poor service and customer support being shown.

2nd test with VPN (TunnelBear). Operation Mechagon. World quests. No lag.

See my earlier MTR reports for comparison.

VPN seems to be a good workaround.

|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|                                      WinMTR statistics                                   |
|                       Host              -   %  | Sent | Recv | Best | Avrg | Wrst | Last |
|------------------------------------------------|------|------|------|------|------|------|
|     ip-192-241-194-198.lazerpenguin.com -    0 | 9280 | 9280 |  182 |  183 |  525 |  183 |
|                         107.170.234.253 -    1 | 9277 | 9276 |    0 |  190 |  465 |  183 |
|                         138.197.248.206 -    1 | 9277 | 9276 |    0 |  188 |  615 |  184 |
|                         138.197.248.198 -    1 | 9277 | 9276 |    0 |  187 |  430 |  183 |
|                   No response from host -  100 | 1859 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |
|              ae1-br01-eqsv5.as57976.net -    0 | 9280 | 9280 |  232 |  239 |  524 |  235 |
|         et-0-0-3-br01-eqch2.as57976.net -    0 | 9280 | 9280 |  231 |  241 |  697 |  233 |
|         et-0-0-0-pe02-eqch2.as57976.net -    1 | 9277 | 9276 |    0 |  238 |  493 |  247 |
|        chi-eqch2-ia-bons-02.as57976.net -    1 | 9277 | 9276 |    0 |  238 |  505 |  235 |
|                           24.105.62.129 -    1 | 9277 | 9276 |    0 |  237 |  461 |  234 |
|________________________________________________|______|______|______|______|______|______|
   WinMTR v0.92 GPL V2 by Appnor MSP - Fully Managed Hosting & Cloud Provider

Can you try across multiple dungeons/instances.

Many people reported that dungeons are irregularly problematic. Some are good, some are bad.

I’ve been using VPN the entire day, but still getting mixed results.

World latency seems fine for a awhile, but it is still prone to sudden spikes in instance content capping out at 500ms which isn’t as bad as before but still makes the game unplayable with screen freezes for a couple of seconds every once in awhile.

Was just in a raid where everything was working smoothly, wiped on the 3rd boss, and after resetting, latency spiked from 200 - 500+ms.

Forgot to run WINMTR so i have no data to show for it, but will be running more test tonight to get some data on it.

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so already spend money to play WoW and now need to spend money to get VPN in order to play? facepalm sorry don’t have that much money :crying_cat_face:

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Just for reference I play on NA from the UK and usually sit at 90-130 ms on east/west coast servers respectively.

However, when I join a bg/instance that is hosted on OCE by the leader I vary from 250ms to 500ms and sometimes spikes to 1-2k+ which seem like far too much, even considering the distance.

Blizz, can you do something? Reply us with anything other than asking for WinMTR result please (I bet you too have enough evidence/data). You have to do it so everyone will know that you DO something other than reading the thread. I want to remind you that your community builds by smaller communities coming together and when these small communities fell apart, you’ll have much more work to be done to get it back.

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Can’t believe it’s been a week with no response.

Wonder if we will get free game time from this

Results are too inconsistent.

Same dungeon run, using both ISP and VPN connection.

ISP

Home latency: 128ms World latency 763ms
WinMTR statistics |

| Host - % | Sent | Recv | Best | Avrg | Wrst | Last |

|------------------------------------------------|------|------|------|------|------|------|

| Linksys09702 - 0 | 711 | 711 | 1 | 2 | 60 | 1 |

| 182.55.229.3 - 1 | 707 | 706 | 2 | 6 | 238 | 4 |

| 183.90.44.129 - 1 | 707 | 706 | 3 | 8 | 312 | 6 |

| 183.90.44.173 - 0 | 711 | 711 | 2 | 12 | 285 | 16 |

| 203.118.7.97 - 0 | 711 | 711 | 3 | 14 | 314 | 18 |

| 203.118.5.77 - 1 | 707 | 706 | 3 | 7 | 314 | 5 |

| 203.118.6.69 - 0 | 711 | 711 | 3 | 8 | 311 | 18 |

|i-22-108-peer.istt04.pr.telstraglobal - 1 | 707 | 706 | 3 | 8 | 231 | 5 |

| i-93.sgpl-core02.telstraglobal - 0 | 711 | 711 | 4 | 10 | 309 | 12 |

| i-15150.sgcn-core01.telstraglobal - 0 | 711 | 711 | 4 | 10 | 309 | 12 |

| i-20451.sydo-core04.telstraglobal - 1 | 707 | 706 | 119 | 124 | 354 | 140 |

| i-91.sydo10.telstraglobal - 0 | 711 | 711 | 119 | 123 | 314 | 123 |

| unknown.telstraglobal - 0 | 711 | 711 | 124 | 132 | 311 | 132 |

| et-0-0-48-br01-eqsy4.as57976 - 0 | 711 | 711 | 120 | 129 | 313 | 137 |

| et-0-0-0-pe01-eqsy4.as57976 - 0 | 711 | 711 | 122 | 129 | 311 | 128 |

| 137.221.66.145 - 0 | 711 | 711 | 119 | 123 | 308 | 131 |

| 103.4.115.248 - 0 | 711 | 711 | 120 | 124 | 314 | 124 |

|____________|||||||

VPN

Home latency:240 World latency: 378

WinMTR statistics

Host % Sent Recv Best Avrg Wrst Last
10.8.2.1 4 551 534 3 9 89 5
vlan17.as01.wco1.sg.m247 3 555 539 3 10 145 5
xe-1-0-3-0.bb1.wco1.sg.m247 4 551 534 3 10 96 4
irb-0.bb2.wco1.sg.m247 4 551 534 3 10 89 4
xe-2-2-8-0.sincr5.-.opentransit 3 563 549 3 10 99 8
4637.sgw.equinix 3 559 544 4 11 96 5
i-93.sgpl-core02.telstraglobal 2 578 569 5 32 3727 8
i-15150.sgcn-core01.telstraglobal 3 570 558 5 19 1852 7
i-20451.sydo-core04.telstraglobal 2 575 565 121 141 3843 122
i-91.sydo10.telstraglobal 2 574 564 121 144 3839 122
unknown.telstraglobal 2 574 564 122 148 3842 123
et-0-0-48-br01-eqsy4.as57976 2 570 559 124 153 2171 125
et-0-0-0-pe01-eqsy4.as57976 2 584 577 126 158 3841 127
137.221.66.145 2 581 573 124 150 3841 125
103.4.115.248 2 584 577 127 156 3841 128

Im seeing way more packet loss on my VPN connection compared to ISP, however ISP gameplay is way worse with world latency at over 700 compared to 300+ for VPN

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I tried Expressed VPN. Started with around 200~300ms, but after a min or so it will increase to 500ms.

Over the years, I got used to playing between 200 ~300ms, but anything higher than that it will either be unplayable or at a major disadvantage.

Look at all these new threads with the same issue. Sure would be nice to get an idea of what’s up and steps being taken to resolve the issue.

Australian player on Wyrmrest Accord here. Using a VPN fixes the routing issue in the open world but the latency spikes back up and stays there after entering an instance. I’ve gotten many a deserter debuff because of it. Here’s the WinMTR (without VPN) I got:

    |------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|

|                                      WinMTR statistics                                   |

|                       Host              -   %  | Sent | Recv | Best | Avrg | Wrst | Last |

|------------------------------------------------|------|------|------|------|------|------|

|                         router.asus.com -    0 |  844 |  844 |    1 |    4 |   27 |    3 |

|              203-219-198-74.tpgi.com.au -    0 |  844 |  844 |    9 |   12 |   40 |   12 |

|              203-219-57-130.tpgi.com.au -    0 |  844 |  844 |    9 |   12 |   31 |   11 |

|       nme-apt-bur-dom1-po70.tpgi.com.au -    0 |  844 |  844 |   61 |   67 |   84 |   64 |

|  syd-gls-har-int1-hu0-3-0-3.tpgi.com.au -    0 |  844 |  844 |   58 |   63 |   84 |   64 |

|                  las-b24-link.telia.net -   14 |  545 |  470 |  218 |  221 |  262 |  231 |

|  blizzard-ic-348620-las-b24.c.telia.net -   17 |  505 |  420 |  218 |  223 |  285 |  221 |

|              ae1-br01-csla1.as57976.net -   12 |  581 |  514 |  222 |  226 |  283 |  224 |

|       xe-0-0-1-3-br01-eqla1.as57976.net -   17 |  513 |  430 |  223 |  231 |  328 |  225 |

|        et-0-0-2-br01-swlv10.as57976.net -   15 |  541 |  465 |    0 |  231 |  516 |  238 |

|        et-0-0-0-pe01-swlv10.as57976.net -   15 |  529 |  450 |  223 |  228 |  346 |  235 |

|                           137.221.105.2 -    0 |  844 |  844 |  239 |  241 |  258 |  242 |

|________________________________________________|______|______|______|______|______|______|

Another Australian player another problem at the las b24 telia hop onwards.

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Fix your dog servers, been unplayable for the past 4 days.

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Blizzard support is a joke really.

I provided an update to their earlier suggestion on using a VPN to identify if the issue lay with my ISP. I have done countless tests on this and the WINMTR data I provided to them clearly shows packet loss only occurring once traffic begins to hit their severs, and low and behold this is the response get:

Greetings,

Thank you for being patient patience while we looked into this connectivity issue for you. We received several contacts from players in your region who were having problems when you sent in this ticket. It seems like players being routed through networks around South East Asia and Australia specifically were having problems with routing connections. Players’ network traffic was being routed by Internet Service Providers to Europe, and then back to the Americas. This caused ongoing high latency and disconnection issues for several hours.

Please note that Blizzard cannot provide any compensation for internet service provider connection errors like this. We know that this has caused problems with your enjoyment of the game, so hopefully there will be no further problems. We appreciate you taking the time to reach out to us and let us know about these problems. Thanks to players like you we we’re able to identify the root cause of these issues and keep the community better informed.

One thing that may be notable for this problem is that there are currently mass quarantines around the world due to the Coronavirus. As a result, internet infrastructure is strained. More people are working from home, and more people staying home using the internet to do things like stream video, download games, etc. Because the internet itself is struggling all around the globe, many Internet Service Providers are throttling connections to certain services so that important industries can ensure that they have a good connection to their businesses. In other situations, some of the internet providers just don’t have enough bandwidth for everybody during peak hours, causing further issues.

If you run into problems like this in the future, the easiest way to test to see if this is the problem you’re having is to try on a different network. What I’ve been recommending to people who have problems like this is to test by installing a Virtual Private Network (VPN). Popular options for this include Tunnelbear, WTFast, and Hotspotshield. If you install a VPN, connect to the VPN, and are able to connect after doing this, then you know that the problem is an Internet Service Provider issue. Unfortunately at this time, there’s not a lot that Internet Service Providers can do right now - they’re mostly at their limits. If the VPN works, using it whenever connection issues occur until the quarantines are over.

If you have questions or needed additional help, please let us know.

Like seriously, aren’t you even reading whats being lodged in tickets!?
Why are u providing me with the same solution which I have responded to previously saying its not a working solution, and that the fault does not lie with my ISP but somewhere else along the data transfer chain, particular your severs.

Here are 2 MTR reports to compare with VPN and without VPN. Big difference.

The first is with a VPN (over 4 hours-worth), and there was no lag. Instances, open world, etc


|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|

|                                      WinMTR statistics                                   |

|                       Host              -   %  | Sent | Recv | Best | Avrg | Wrst | Last |

|------------------------------------------------|------|------|------|------|------|------|

|     ip-192-241-194-198.lazerpenguin.com -    0 | 9280 | 9280 |  182 |  183 |  525 |  183 |

|                         107.170.234.253 -    1 | 9277 | 9276 |    0 |  190 |  465 |  183 |

|                         138.197.248.206 -    1 | 9277 | 9276 |    0 |  188 |  615 |  184 |

|                         138.197.248.198 -    1 | 9277 | 9276 |    0 |  187 |  430 |  183 |

|                   No response from host -  100 | 1859 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |

|              ae1-br01-eqsv5.as57976.net -    0 | 9280 | 9280 |  232 |  239 |  524 |  235 |

|         et-0-0-3-br01-eqch2.as57976.net -    0 | 9280 | 9280 |  231 |  241 |  697 |  233 |

|         et-0-0-0-pe02-eqch2.as57976.net -    1 | 9277 | 9276 |    0 |  238 |  493 |  247 |

|        chi-eqch2-ia-bons-02.as57976.net -    1 | 9277 | 9276 |    0 |  238 |  505 |  235 |

|                           24.105.62.129 -    1 | 9277 | 9276 |    0 |  237 |  461 |  234 |

|________________________________________________|______|______|______|______|______|______|

   WinMTR v0.92 GPL V2 by Appnor MSP - Fully Managed Hosting & Cloud Provider

The second MTR below is without the VPN. The lag was so bad that I gave up after about 15 minutes (dailies in Mechagon).

|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|

|                                      WinMTR statistics                                   |

|                       Host              -   %  | Sent | Recv | Best | Avrg | Wrst | Last |

|------------------------------------------------|------|------|------|------|------|------|

|                         router.asus.com -    0 | 2125 | 2125 |    0 |    0 |    8 |    0 |

|                            182.55.226.3 -    0 | 2124 | 2124 |    2 |    4 |  558 |    3 |

|                           183.90.44.217 -    0 | 2124 | 2124 |    2 |    3 |    9 |    3 |

|                           183.90.44.177 -    0 | 2124 | 2124 |    2 |    7 |  120 |    3 |

|                            203.118.7.77 -    0 | 2124 | 2124 |    3 |    9 |  125 |    3 |

|                            203.118.7.86 -    0 | 2125 | 2125 |    3 |    4 |   12 |    3 |

|                  snge-b2-link.telia.net -    0 | 2124 | 2124 |    2 |    3 |   46 |    3 |

|                  snge-b1-link.telia.net -    0 | 2124 | 2124 |    3 |    5 |   36 |    4 |

|                  las-b21-link.telia.net -    0 | 2124 | 2124 |  188 |  189 |  208 |  189 |

|  blizzard-ic-348621-las-b21.c.telia.net -   19 | 1219 |  992 |  173 |  177 |  270 |  173 |

|              ae1-br01-eqla1.as57976.net -   22 | 1151 |  907 |    0 |  302 |  432 |  347 |

|        et-0-0-2-br01-swlv10.as57976.net -   23 | 1119 |  867 |  255 |  301 |  399 |  298 |

|                          137.221.65.133 -   18 | 1251 | 1032 |  220 |  225 |  416 |  221 |

|         et-0-0-0-pe04-eqch2.as57976.net -   21 | 1154 |  912 |  256 |  300 |  406 |  294 |

|        chi-eqch2-ia-bons-04.as57976.net -   22 | 1150 |  907 |  256 |  298 |  310 |  295 |

|                           24.105.62.129 -   18 | 1253 | 1035 |  220 |  221 |  227 |  221 |

|________________________________________________|______|______|______|______|______|______|

   WinMTR v0.92 GPL V2 by Appnor MSP - Fully Managed Hosting & Cloud Provider

YMMV. But so far, VPN works for me (TunneBear to USA).

I’m only able try this workaround because I already have a VPN. But there’s no way Blizz should think that anyone would pay for a VPN as a temporary workaround for this problem. They need to fix it.