If you’re getting a 3 min CD for a 45 second one that’s a worthwhile trade
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It’s more than that if you are attempting to go for a kill on a hunter. You also just lost all damage cds.
Good advice.
Though, this is really sad design when you think about it (telling a DoT spec they’re wasting GCDs by applying DoTs).
What if its 2s and the hunter is running at me with his healer across the map? What can I kill?
I guess? I mean you don’t just do things that are getting you nothing out of it
If you want certain things to happen you just set it up, but 99% of the time you’d get more value with dotting their pets anyways
I mean you can have more than one mind games opportunity in 3 minutes
Being able to force the hunter to be careful with his Feigns is beneficial for you anyways. If he’s concerned about a MG kill he won’t randomly feign your dots, and if he’s just trying to remove dots constantly you can set up a MG kill
Idk there’s obvious advantages to the hunter but you can be smarter than that
Hard counters are far more prevalent in 2s but surely you can drag his healer out to poor positions, kite the hunter by just running away and keeping him corruption slowed, focus other dots on his pet, make his healer push in then set up on the healer
I know, I agree - that’s why I said it’s good advice.
My point was simply that it’s pretty sad that the game design basically says to a DoT class player “yeah just don’t even look at this target you’ll never kill them”
I mean he can dot the hunter just not waste a UA, but people not being absolute kill targets has always existed in WoW
This was all I was trying to say. Going hunter with the fd leggo seems like it’s always a terrible idea for an aff lock.
So you agree going hunter is a bad idea?
Of course, but you have to admit, this is a bit extreme for a counter… even if it is just a niche advantage.
Not what I said I think you just aren’t understanding
Obviously don’t focus him down until he feigns
You can still rot him passivey with corruptions/agonies while being annoying to him and keep up more of your commited dmg on other targets
But if he wastes feigns then you can punish it pretty quickly too
I’m actually pretty confident you can take advantage of an absurd amount of small things especially vs other bad hunters
In a perfect world a Venthyr hunter is unlikely to lose to an Aff lock in 2s, doesn’t mean you can’t also easily punish big noob mistakes and give yourself win conditions especially because they’ll be overconfident
Play better or don’t though idc
Never said it wasn’t. I think Craven Stratagem is super strong. I do think Aff locks can take advantage of it more. I think that legendary counters other specs/mechanics more, because it’s not like the warlock rly needs to UA the hunter, but bleed specs and plenty of other physical or hard to remove mechanics get shut down hard by it too, maybe even harder (entire covenant abilities for example). At least aff isn’t in the worst position in the world if they UA pets/healer instead of the hunter
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Could be wrong, but I think it was around when 9.0.5 came out and they fixed priests being able to cap flags with gfade as well.
Wish my Cloak of Shadows was 15 secs.
Ehhh, with “MVPs” like this, idk why I even play at all.
It seems like you took offense, are you sure you aren’t slightly biased towards hunters?
This is why I said this:
On a final note, this is what blizz wants from MVPs…
“All in all, Blizzard wants to expand the scope of the player community while keeping the idea of fostering a POSITIVE, helpful community alive.”
That leads me to believe they probably don’t want this:
Not very positive and a bit confusing when you look at the contradicting statements you made.
I don’t have the investment to go circles man, you can take the advice or not
Nothing is going to change, you mistake a lack of care for bias
It’s highly unlikely anything changes, you could probably drastically increase your w/r vs hunters with what I said
And I said you can use it to play better or not because there’s not really another option. You can change how you’d play for a net positive, which would prolly be far more rewarding for you anyways, or you can only complain about the mechanic which you’re also free to do but no one can help you with that and it’s entirely unlikely anything changes
Go be upset about the MVP thing though it just isn’t going to help your problem
Wasn’t any contradicting statements either, but there’s too much information that wouldn’t help you at this point to elaborate on
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i think it’s more that all your posts consist of complaining about locks or things that counter locks instead of genuinely trying to improve your gameplay
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Lol what a simp 
…That sure didn’t take long.
simp lol i rarely comment on anything dilly posts about
you’re just deflecting again
Could I possibly be wrong in my viewpoint?
Nah the other person is a simp xd lol
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I’m not wrong about you making contradictory statements. You obviously aren’t going to admit you made them so there’s no point in arguing about it anymore.
You felt the need to defend this person by trying to generalize things I post as being mostly negative, which isn’t the truth.
You didn’t even have a dog in this race and just decide to jump in on their behalf.
I call it like I see it.
Your only reference was me talking to another person. You have an idea in your head that you can’t do anything whatsoever but I’m entirely confident the advice I gave you would take you pretty far vs the majority of hunters you’d play against. I explained how to effectively generate pressure and how to open up UA opportunities for yourself.
I only responded to the notion of specs not being kill targets for others being something that’s always existed, not necessarily that you never will get a kill opportunity especially when yours is to rot people
There’s plenty of specs in WoW that have just been non kill targets in 99% of situations which is why I brought it up since it’s not really relevant. But by reading what I suggested it’s more than likely you’d give yourself kill opportunities against hunters/hunter teams by simply not forcing it to happen.
Gl tho hope you figure it out
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