Maybe I am just thrown off by the internet being the internet, but when I look at my return per dollar I am pretty happy with what I am getting per month,
I raid 6-9 hours a week right now, when phase 3 comes around it will be a solid 10 hours per week at that point. I will be farming dungeons for cards and shards at that point for maybe a month to rebuild my stockpile and get my trinket so I don’t need to put it on my list.
I am content until then only needing maybe an hour a week outside of raids to stay current.
I actively check the auction house to make goblin sappers for the GBank as a fun side activity, and still find myself making more gold then I spend.
I know people are passionate about a lot of things, and they are free to do so, but am I alone in just being content with what I got for my costs?
Anyone else*
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TBC is a raid log expansion, which leaves little to do during downtime. The only fun things outside of raid are ruined by massive server imbalances and blizzards unwanted pvp/arena changes. This is the gripe most people have. I can spend all week playing SoM and not get bored, but after raids in TBC I twiddle my thumbs.
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I don’t think you are alone.
If we look at the raiding population over time, from the beginning of WoW Classic to now, it seems to be a pretty consistent population with fairly predictable peaks and valleys.
https://ironforge.pro/population/all/
I was mostly content the first time around with Vanilla & TBC back in 2004+, but it’s a pale shadow of its former self as the Classic release in terms of both developer investment/interest & the modern-day online “community”.
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i’m fine with it, tbh. i’m a retail player so i only raidlog anyway.
i like the way the classes are built in tbc and wotlk… playing a mage/rogue in battlegrounds is a blast thats all I really do
I’m content and I don’t even raid.
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I can accept nearly everything about TBC as it is and have rerolled on a pvp server to pass the time. Combat and levelling is fun as always.
I will say that I’m very sad that Deviate died on both Vanilla and TBC as it was my first server I played on but Grobb is a pretty good replacement…even if I am like four hours ahead of the west coast.
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You are not alone, however you might feel alone here on the forums as people here are rather negative and tend to doomposting.
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I’m gonna need you to elaborate as to what your post is attempting to say between the lines here, because I have a few questions:
You don’t think there’s anything that Blizzard could be doing better given their pedigree?
You think every choice they’ve made in terms of managing server health has been a good one?
The worst case scenario is you are choosing right now to be one of those “it’s fine” people, as a way to unilaterally dismiss concerns that other players have, simply because you have different preferences and needs that are, lucky you, being met. This is typically referred to as being inconsiderate of others.
I’m just curious why you think it’s beneficial or helps anyone, even the game itself, to let the room know, “Hey guys, I’m perfectly content with what I have and don’t have any complaints”.
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No you are not alone. Only about 5% of players ever visit these forums… they aren’t really a good indicator of game health.
In combination with that, people are way more likely to leave negative criticism vs. positive criticism. So it might seem like the entire game is doom and gloom from the forums, but the reality is that many people are just happily logging in with no concern for this place and third party websites like it.
$15 is pretty cheap for the hours and hours of entertainment WoW offers.
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Dollar for dollar Wow is one of the cheapest hobbies out there.
Even if you only play for 10 hours a week it’s still cheaper than my daily coffee bill let alone a movie or dinner date.
Is there things i’d prefer blizzard did? sure. But like i said it’s one of the best bang for your buck hobbies.
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It’s mostly fine. T5 raids are fun, although they were more fun before they were nerfed.
I could play more outside of raids, if I wanted to play my alts. Even on my small server with like 300 Horde-side, I have no doubt I could put groups together. And Kara pugs are commonplace. But I just don’t feel like playing my alts. I’ve kinda had my fill of dungeons and Kara, and that’s fine. So I’m doing other things on non-raid nights. Playing AH in between for gold.
Looking forward to Hyjal/BT in P3. And Netherwing dailies, which will be something new to do outside of raids every day, at least until I get my Netherwing mount.
And then in P4, we’ll be able to spend an extra night per week farming ZA for bear mounts. That should be fun. The original speed runs.
It’s weird how “the content is the same” but how people treat it is completely different between the original round and the Classic round.
Raid logging has nothing to do with TBC, and everything to do with the average player in 202x.
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WoW is cheaper than Netflix. Also, don’t forget that you can tinker with Retail to replay old expansions, or see the ‘lore’ in the new one, so like Netflix, there’s a ton of stuff people completely ignore that they could do.
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Then you didn’t play TBC back in the day. It was very much raid log back then too. Hence all the extra stuff they added in WOTLK
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There is very much a difference between thinking things COULD be better, And being angry because they are NOT better.
Not really anything between the lines. Just see so much anger and being upset about something that people voluntarily pay for. Like I make bad buys all the time because I expected more from it. if it was what was advertised then I don’t get angry about it, I accept it as a lesson and move on.
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Yup. I keep saying the player base has changed more than the game itself.
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Idk, TBC is just such a 180 from classic. I would be on classic all day. Getting buffs, killing people with buffs, dungeons, farming, etc etc etc.
Now its like. Do all raids in 2 hours. Then GDKP them again in 2 hours on my 2nd character. Then log for the week.
I just like a game where there is always things to do AND things you WANT to do when you log on. Yes i know there are arenas and BGs but miss me with that. So boring.
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Which is fair! I also have more hobbies so being able to get the same amount of raiding concentrated time, without all the other stuff, allows me to spend more time doing other things.
I really like loggin in at 7:45 for a 8pm raid versus logging in at like 6pm to get all the buffs, havin to set my hearth in a specific spot to save buff time so I can only really get the buffs when the raids mages are there to teleport, so on and so forth.
Now if I want to pop on for 10 minutes when I feel like doing the dailies it’s just go do daily, hearth back. Done. I get some people enjoy what I considered chores. But I am really glad they are gone.
Means I can save my energy for start of phase 3 when I will be farming dungeons, and raiding all three days a week.