Anyone hope the rumored new spec for Evoker is a melee spec?

[Senpu-thrall]

you do realize hunter was 3 Ranged specs until legion right?

[Bearießlast-elune]

@Briselody-lightnings-blade

That disqualifies tanks

You dont know that, each tank has its own unique way of mitigating damage. The evoker tanks could just tank and keep the mobs at a distance with them wings of thiers.

Btw, what they say and what they do has commonly been different in the past with blizzard. Remember the time they litterally laughed saying we wouldnt want classic realms.

[Kravitze-area-52]

Novel concept, but it could be a magic based tank that supports the party/raid. Similar to Paladin, but more caster-ish.

[Milynde-malygos]

@Senpu-thrall

you do realize hunter was 3 Ranged specs until legion right?

It was a hybrid class that used mostly ranged spells with a few melee spells until MoP removed the tertiary weapon slot, so without a place for its ability to use melee weapons, they converted one of its specs into a full melee spec, then reworked that into another hybrid that’s mostly melee with a bit of ranged, but only one weapon. Hence “some degree of parity”. There was a basis for a melee hunter spec, not so much for a melee evoker spec.

[Zorblade-hyjal]

@Milynde-malygos

There was a basis for a melee hunter spec, not so much for a melee evoker spec.

I’m just sad they picked the wrong spec to melee-ify, it should’ve been BM.

And the general purpose of the black dragonflight as “Earthwarders” is basis enough for an Evoker tank spec.

[Lore-herod]

“There was a basis for melee hunter”

As if there isn’t tons of support for a melee/tank evoker spec.

There is a plethora of concepts that could be utilized, from using their Earth heritage of the Black Dragonflight to work as a tank or to weave between all 5 flights to enhance their talons to strike

[Thundahstahm-stormrage]

I think it took them 18 years to make a new ranged spec. That spec already plays from melee range. If they give this thing any kind of melee spec, they should just delete ranged specs.

[Prasios-thrall (Prasios)]

My friend wants it to be a ranged tank. Like the trooper from swtor.

I myself have no idea what I want from it. If it does use shadowflames that would be cool.

[Thundahstahm-stormrage]

I want it to be a proper ranged spec. The first we’d have been given since 2004.

[Briselody-lightnings-blade (Briselody)]

I’d actually really be excited if it wound up being a “support” spec.

Blizzard needs to try some new things every now and then.

[Prasios-thrall (Prasios)]

I thought it would be great for a good team that your DPS comes from boosting others DPS or survival.

[Senpu-thrall]

I agree support, ranged tank, adding a spec to a class mid expansion, plenty of new things they might try.

[Lore-herod]

A support spec would never work.
If it isn’t good, no one will take it.
If it’s good, it will be a requirement.

If they are going to try something “new” they should do a “flex” spec which can modify its playstyle on the fly.

Imagine a Demonology Warlock rework that can shapeshift into different demons with different styles:

• Imp for ranged
• Felguard for melee
• Voidwalker for tank
• X for healer

And they can’t stick to the same demon form forever, they are forced into weaving. The would use Demonic Fury as a resource and the higher that value gets the stronger they are. They don’t want it to reach max though or it has negative consequences.

[Ashgaar-sargeras]

Dev interview explicitly shut down the idea of a melee/tank spec for the Evokers and its not hard to see why. The core kit is built as a caster.

I’m still banking on “Augmentation” Evokers to be essentially ranged Ret Paladins but probably with more interactive auras and more offensive “blessings”.

People who say there’s no support specs in WoW already clearly don’t PvP or ever did keys over 20.

[Zorblade-hyjal]

@Lore-herod

If they are going to try something “new” they should do a “flex” spec which can modify its playstyle on the fly.

Isn’t druids being like this initially the reason they had to split guardian and feral into two specs? Speaking of which:

@Lore-herod

Imagine a Demonology Warlock rework that can shapeshift into different demons with different styles:

• Imp for ranged
• Felguard for melee
• Voidwalker for tank
• X for healer

And they can’t stick to the same demon form forever, they are forced into weaving. The would use Demonic Fury as a resource and the higher that value gets the stronger they are. They don’t want it to reach max though or it has negative consequences.

I’ve always liked this idea of weaving between forms as part of a singular spec’s core rotation, but I’d rather see it as a rework to Feral along with some new feral-only beast forms to expand a bit beyond just cat and bear. Druid already has shapeshifting as a core aspect of the class and Feral just being a bootleg rogue has always felt like a complete thematic mismatch, which is probably a result of the guardian/feral split.

[Semicasual-sulfuras]

I’d love to see the games first mail-based tank in Evoker.

I’d also love to see permanent Visage form.

[Sniffz-area-52]

I know I miss big axe windfury crits.

[Ashgaar-sargeras]

Play 2h frost dk.

Same idea with KM procs.

[Zorblade-hyjal]

@Ashgaar-sargeras

Dev interview explicitly shut down the idea of a melee/tank spec for the Evokers and its not hard to see why. The core kit is built as a caster.

So is Shaman, but that doesn’t stop them from also having a well designed melee spec, and I’ve heard very little complaints about their general class tree so it seems to work well. Shaman and Evoker are both missing a tanking spec that are entirely in line with their thematics and class fantasy, especially in Evoker’s case.

[Sniffz-area-52]

Why can they not revert this 1hd nonsense?