I had the same issue with underutilizing GPU on my 3070, so I doubt it’s a driver issue now that I’m on AMD. Considering other games will take full advantage of the increase in power, I’m blaming WoW’s engine. Not interested in dropping $600CAD+ on a CPU right now (which would need other new parts as well) just to see if it fixes it for one game (WoW) having issues.
I’ve also seen people with better CPUs than me complain of hardware underutilization in WoW only on reddit, so it isn’t just me.
During Legion I would hit the WoW engine framerate limit (might’ve been 300, maybe 250fps) when flying around Stormwind on all low settings. I can’t do that now, on way better hardware, even on lower settings. When I was on my 3070, people blamed the VRAM. Now that I have 16gb VRAM, the problem is suddenly my CPU (which is still being underutilized). Goalposts keep moving. Anything to take the blame off Blizzard needing to update the engine I suppose.
Resident Evil 4. GTA V Enhanced. Marvel Rivals. Robocop. Diablo IV. All have no issue utilizing more of my system than WoW ever does, while pushing higher frames than WoW with more demanding stuff.
I’m talking about fairly recent professional reviews or at least reviews done across multiple hardware configurations using stable benchmark run through. As much as I appreciate the fact there is a reddit board for WoW, its a vast space of hyperbole, placebo effects, and groundless solutions.
it’s not the same engine since legion that was launched 8 1/2 years ago
well thats silly since the RTX 3070 actually performs as well as the 16 GB RX 6800 XT and significantly better than the 16 GB Arc A770. The texture files are not that big for WoW.
no one has said your CPU is the issue. I simply stated across a large game suite, the 12600k is a solid match for your GPU. For WoW, that is a fine CPU for performance. Not as good as 5800X3D but much better than the 5800X from AMD.
Well new games always get more demanding but once again I’m not really sure what you are specifically expecting. Is this problem you are having specifically to your 9070 XT, to all 9070 XTs, to all RX 9xxx series, or to all AMD cards? Without that information it’s hard to pinpoint anything specific.
I understand your frustration but from the information you have given us it really looks like a driver issue. Hopefully swarf chimes in with his new card and we can get more information on the situation.
How is it a driver issue when I had the exact same issue on my 3070 - WoW underutilizing hardware. Maybe if it was only underutilizing my 9070 XT, but it’s also underutilizing my CPU. Rivals for example I just saw spike at 81% usage on a single core on max settings 120fps lock. WoW doesn’t go that high, when I have the frame cap set to 120fps it tops out around 80fps (whether maxed out or all low) in Dorn with no CPU core being above 50%. Only time I get 120fps is in dungeons and CPU usage is even lower in those than in Dorn.
i have two builds, mostly play on my 12600k & 4060ti and I get around 80’s to 90’s @ 1440p max on retail. I also have a 12900k & RTX 3080 (with DDR4) but I don’t game that much on it. On WoW I was getting an extra 20-30 FPS with that PC.
you are going to have far more draw calls in dorn than any dungeon especially on a high pop server during peak times.
based on your info I don’t really see evidence it “underutilized” your RTX 3070 or CPU
it does seem to hold back 9070 XT performance, although still waiting for response on DDR4 or DDR5 ram, but without other people testing it with other new AMD cards its hard to really state the exact issue.
Is the WoW engine great? no. It’s over 20 years old and was based off WC III. Over the years it has evolved but like any MMO game suffers from upstream and dowstream issues. It also works across a huge spectrum of PC parts that most other games would either refuse to or simply remain the same game graphically with little visual performance increase.
that’s fair although I highly doubt there are too many people left there who truly know the ins and outs of that engine. From what I hear they basically use the same kit over and over again for each expansion.
Yeah it’s just frustrating and I know people probably don’t want to hear it. I know the first time I noticed major FPS issues in a city since coming back for Legion was Val in DF. I get a lot of stutter when skyriding which might be from moving so fast with stuff streamloading. I think they need to literally do a whole new engine. Major investment I’m sure but it’d be so worth it. When they said they were making the special announcement that turned out to be player housing, I had been hoping it was a new engine lol
that means a whole new game and honestly they probably believed numbers would have dwindled (like in Everquest) so that they could launch WoW II (like EQ 2) but the entire industry for MMO’s is different than back then and their numbers are too strong in retail.
idk if this will get modded or not, but an unofficial WoW ported the game to UE5. That is with $0/mo sub fee.
This isn’t to say Blizz needs to port the game to UE5. Just pointing out that they could make a new engine and move everything WoW over to it, without making it WoW2 and maybe losing people. Also, this unofficial version that has UE5 lets you run the game on the old engine if you want, if your system isn’t modern enough to run UE5. It even lets UE5 and old engine players play together. So Blizz could do the same.
Thought I report Back as My Issue was Resolved with a Motherboard BIOS Update. World of Warcraft now runs fine with the Adrenalin Software Suite Installed, the Color Washout with HDR ON in Black Ops 6 has also been fixed with the Motherboard BIOS Update as well. Can Say the 9070 XT is Problem free, WoW only fully loads the Card Up in Specific areas and only in some Newer dungeons not all. Expect the card to Operate most of the time at 1.4 - 1.6 GHz @ 85 - 105 Watts in most cases or areas in WoW, Other games like BO 6 It will Clock fully to 3.17 GHz and in some areas of wow occasionally it will boost to 3 GHz. Card In my system never Exceeds 52C under Full Load due to the 2x 120MM Magnetic Levitation fans feeding the card cool air and My Cards Fans have never Turned on as they only kick on at 60C.
System Specs:
PowerColor Red Devil 9070 XT.
7700X
Gigabyte B650 Aorus Pro AX Motherboard
G.Skill Flare X5 64 GB DDR 5 6000 CL30
2 TB Samsung 980 Pro
4 TB MSI Spatium M480 Pro
Corsair RM1000e 1000 Watt PSU
Noctua NH-U12A Black Edition, With Offset Bracket Kit & Noctua Thermal Paste Guard
Lian Li Lancool II Mesh Performance C Case
2x Lian Li 140 MM Fans Top (One as Intake one as Exhaust
1x Lian Li 120 MM Exhaust Fan
2x Corsair Magnetic Levitation 120 MM Fans Feeding the Graphics card
2x Corsair Magnetic Levitation 140 MM Fans Front Intake.
Gigabyte M27Q Pro 165 Hz Monitor
Thinking back… Gigabyte had a Bios a while back that was bugged in way. It disabled both C-State Control and Resizable Bar by default. They fixed it in a later Bios update changing C-State Control back to “Auto” and “Enabling” Resizable Bar by Default. Maybe you were on that bios?
I’m having issues where my clock random would go from 3.4ghz to 1.65ghz or so on the 9070xt. Is that something happening to you? I wonder if it’s just a thing where it’s a wow issue with drivers.
I have the newest bios. This was a brand-new build for my wife. So, first thing was updating everything. Never seen anything like this, she would be playing and be fine for an hour. All of sudden it would drop from 140-150 fps to 55 randomly. Clock speed would go lower more than half. When I alt tab, come back into wow, it would go back up to normal for 5-10 second and drop again.
So funny finding. When I have Raytracing on. The clock would dip sometime but will revert back to the normal clock after a bit. I think it has to do with driver or the game. Nothing can be done atm. I may be wrong.
I am not sure Id recommend turning RT on with a non-Nvidia Card in WoW. Yet to see it work properly on a AMD card. What you are describing is an example of that
I did a 7900 XTX build for someone who insisted on the XTX. I had it working pretty flawlessly about 98% of the time but it would still have random issues. This is just my experience. I never got around to finding out if this was Driver issues or Hardware issues because the client wound up swapping to the 4080 Super. They had 0 ray Tracing issues after that.
So, here’s a definite answer to my issues. The adrenaline software is fine. The thing that causes frame/clock-speed drop and massive stuttering was their monitoring overlay. Not using the overlay resolved the issue. Hope that helps others.
