The Frost mage rework on the PTR right now? Remember that crazy Ret Pally rework? This will be light years stronger rofl!!! People will be dying in Frozen orbs. Bg’s are going to be absolutely insane if these changes go through. I may actually get more fun out of bg’s than arena if these changes go through. Glacial getting a shorter cast time with buffed damage. Ray of Frost will be an actual one shot. Not figuratively, it will literally 100 to 0 a player in a single cast. Dust off the ole mages. It’s game time boys…
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Yes I am concerned
Meanwhile the mage discord ready to quit if frost doesn’t wind up with deep freeze
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@ mage discord: https://youtu.be/pTGVoS4xB_0
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Not really. It’ll release stupid, everyone will quit queuing or just feed them CR and complain about it, then Blizzard will make a tongue in cheek “mage seems to be performing better than we’d hoped” hotfix in a week or two. Then Mage rerollers will make 50 posts a day crying ‘their mains’ aren’t viable anymore while we all mock them and wait for the next dumb patch.
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How is mage getting a rework before DKs? LMAO
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Talent tree so good they gotta rework it to make sure mages can get everything
Protagonist class bias
I don’t want to hear this coming from a lock main
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I’m the ugly stepsister spec I want a rework too
← Antagonist class
All other classes are side characters
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Unholy rework too pls. Its been playing the same for 7 years now.
I will fight mages all damn day. And when they start to shoot me with their Gatorade Glacier Freeze laser, I’ll punch them in their feeble mage glass jaw and Dudley Bomb them off of the top of the Blade’s Edge Bridge.
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the only 2 things i’m worried about are the haste talent and the mastery rework
adding ice lance to the mastery was incredibly foolish. zero reason that needed to happen, and adding glacial spike to the mastery was also just as foolish since the ability now double dips from mastery
the haste talent is incredible and i hope it stays, but it’s going to allow us to stack less haste in favor of more mastery which is only worth because the mastery is being reworked for zero reason
i was actually looking forward to stacking crit instead to guarantee shatters, but nope, we are sub rogues now
also, i really don’t think ray of frost will be an issue because the damage talent will just get nerfed in PvP and it’s a channel on a 1 min CD which makes me easier to deal with than spike
but barring zero changes between now and live, this spec is gonna be nuts for a week or two. i just don’t want them to destroy anything. haste talent should stay, ray of frost should be meaningful, but ice lance/glacial spike shouldn’t be included in the mastery
No “rework” should be done in the middle of an expansion, period.
What happened to a basic understanding of class balance… n’zoth save us
edit: if classes are over/under performing, they need to be nerfed/buffed.
We need queue incentivization and MMR improvements FAST
you’re gonna see more reworks thanks to the talent trees because now it’s easy for everyone and blizzard to see where a class is strong/weak, which talents are useless/OP and so on
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It’s completely fine if it’s saved for major patches.
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My only hope is the overall goal of these “reworks” is to get casters to actually cast more often and to reduce the number of gap closers on melee.
I’m also hoping the overall goal is to make pvp more team dependent. No more jack of all trade characters that self heal, dps, CC, break CC, etc…
Old man over here calculating his massive rating gain about to happen when mage rework drops and every shuffle is 1-2 mages.
All hunter mains are greedily licking their chops in anticipation of the feeding frenzy bout to happen in shuffle haha
I’m sure if you have a data from websites you can track all 3 hunter specs skyrocketing in rating in real time as tons of people decide to try mage mini rework in shuffle. I’d be curious to see how much MM players in particular shoot up the first week
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The reason this is happening is talents were rushed to get Dragonflight out the door, and many classes are not fun to play.
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Shhhhhhhushhh!! I need this!
Well it’s a good point… they should be fun, but these redesigns so far have come out to the Live patch ridiculously imbalanced…
Edit: What I’m most concerned about is a class one-shotting like Rets in the middle of last season (10.0.5) (but, everyone is bursting this season anyway lol). We already have an MMR cap and shortage of healers making queue times insanely long and participation very low… Something has to be done, incrementally and carefully though.
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I hate frost mage I hate frost mage I hate frost mage
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