Anyone else upset about Zen 3 Launch?

No need. The 5800x is beating the 5950x and 10900k in wow and a few other CPU based titles. Bone stock. No OC. Only way the 10900k wins is with a massive OC of 5.2 or 5.3

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Actually I’m kinda jelly

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Saw the video. 5800X vs 5950X a few FPS difference. Yeah, need a lot of effort for 10900K to get there.

Thanks anyway.

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Watch ebay like a hawk!

For example this guy wasnt a scalper. He bought for himself then wound up landing a 5900x at microcenter. He claimed he knew it was sold out everywhere so he wanted someone else to get it. So instead of returning it he listed on Ebay it at a price that would cover the Retail price + ebays 10% cut and paypal/shiiping fees.

I’ll wait for the price drops that will happen sometime next year

Supposedly “a lot more” stock coming soon.

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-talks-ryzen-5000-launch

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Cool Im not rolling the dice on it being before Jan 2021. I have till Jan to return my 10900k and motherboard. That “more stock” may be Feb. Nvidia said the same thing. Not much has changed.

Just about every company I have spoken to has told my work Jan/Feb on stock coming back

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Good thing for me I’ve got my 5ghz 8700k still okay

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I’m in New Zealand waiting on a Ryzen 9 5950X, an ASUS ROG STRIX RTX 3080, and an LG CX.

The delays this year have been brutal. I wouldn’t be surprised if I don’t have some of my orders by 2021…

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with a 2080ti or better GPU and 1080p 144hz+ monitor as well

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Grats!

Well, I mean if you want to cool your CPU with LN2 when gaming then sure :smiley: .

I don’t know how this myth got started but it’s completely a myth at 5.2 @1.320 LLC5 my Max temperature during a stress test is 79c!

Max of 75c in cinebench. I even have a video on YouTube to prove it

No liquid nitrogen just 360 AIO

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I’m using it as a joke because the youtuber who made that vid used LN2 for his tests.

In my other post, I pointed out LN2 wasn’t necessary. He just did what he did to push it as far as he could before instability.

I’m just pointing out that my temperatures on an overclocked 5.2 i9 10900k are lower than I will see on a stock 5900x. Which is kind of crazy if you think about it

The interconnects take up a lot of power on a 5900x… and it’s got an extra chiplet vs a 5800x.

Honestly the whole design is revolutionary in a way when it comes to Performance but when it comes to thermals the design of the ryzen chips kind of suck. Due to the infinity Fabric and just the way they work in general they produce more heat then if there was no Infiniti fabric whatsoever liked on Intel.

Or maybe the Intel just cools off quicker who knows. I didn’t build these chips I just know the temperatures they run at and Intel runs much cooler especially when overclocked which is crazy when you look at their power consumption

It’s the 7nm that makes cooling Ryzen hard. You have heat concentrated in a specific location instead of spread out like Intels 14nm.

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7nm design has more heat per mm. Packing much more transistors than Intel’s 14nm.

https://noctua.at/en/why-is-my-ryzen-3000-processor-getting-so-hot-why-are-ryzen-3000-cpus-running-hotter-than-previous-generation-ryzen-cpus-with-the-same-tdp-rating-is-there-anything-wrong-with-my-cooler

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I agree and I think what started this whole myth of Intel’s needing nitrogen to be cooled is everyone just looked at their power consumption and assumed they ran hot and ran with that assumption

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Thank you very much for this. The only thing scaring me about switching to ryzen is I’m deeply questioning if I will be happy with the thermals.

Max temperature I hit on my 10900k OC to 5.2 which has crazy power draws is 51c. That’s not on all cores either that’s just the hottest core. That will be my Max temperature after roughly 3 hours of playing.

I’m thinking The Thermals of my new ryzen chip will scare the crap out of me