Yes, but in the vast majority of cases these people aren’t good about identifying let alone stopping damage, so anything that aggressively strikes into them usually succeeds.
No doubt that would be the case in many scenarios. (And I know it’s the one you want to project the most lol.)
For the good of the game probably better to focus on things that can be controlled by Blizzard; (You cannot control ignorant/bad/unwilling to improve players.) but you can indeed at least fix the gear so people will actually be able to compete / have fun.
I get that you won’t agree/comprehend/accept that based on your posting history, but everyone has their perspective 
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Honor gear is expensive, but 220-233 is enough to get comfortably started in ranked, and 1400 is very accessible by just about anybody, and gives access to 246 gear. That’s more than enough to have an enjoyable bg experience.
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Agreed on that though not everyone wants to “get started in arena” lol.
It also depends on the class/spec and of course RNG. I am the sort who doesn’t like to win because everyone is 240+ on my team versus 220, but it’s a lot nicer than losing.
So luck of the draw plays a part and your class (One of my mains is feral) helps a lot too as he can actually beat higher gears on occasion because of the mechanics.
Anyway thanks for the cordial / objective response!
im tired of necro mm
every other mm is fine
damage amp on death chakrams gotta go
That’s true, and fair. I think that initial placements period always dissuades people, where the system is quick to adjust you up (or down) a lot of people get demoralized by losing their first few, sometimes rather violently. Or feel a certain pressure from their teammate and whatever their expectations are.
True. Some specs work better without gear than others, and random bgs really are a gamble as to which side gets what. I don’t think there’s any ilev matchmaking, but if they ever merged the pool of people queuing from both factions then they could probably arrange matches to sort of mirror each other, if it didn’t murder queues.
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I promise you MM is not the reason you can’t win games.
this thread has been absolutely cursed by this post. what did i just READ
I played against him in bfa in 3s prob around 1700ish and knew when the game started it was the multiboxer. We just mongo deleted his healer before the hunters unstealthed (he then one shot our undergeared monk healer after) and then we just rolled the hunters for an easy W lol.
I think it’s a creative way how he plays and certainly interesting but I had no idea he could actually get over 2k doing it.
Hunters are an absolute joke meme of a class with 2 of the most faceroll specs in the game to choose between. Embarrassing
Am I missing something, but can’t you just line the aim shot?
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interesting that u managed to get that high without earning an elite achievement
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I don’t care about them in arena, but I do find them annoying in BGs. I burn through CDs keeping my group alive through a melee cleave then a wild MM appears and 3 shots me. Just feels dumb. Lol
He’s fried. We queued into him 3 or 4 times last week or the week before, we just lived his opener every time and he quit or just stood there and died. If he got 2600 doing that then that’s sad.
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uh oh clean up in isle 5 we got one 18x rival marksman main callin out another one!!
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Idk, I like seeing tons of MM hunters on the enemy team because they are usually free kills and a detriment to their team.
While I get it sucks to see lock nerfed when there’s so many other outliers that are better in this meta. Deathbolt is toxic and needed a change, and saying things like “you can’t nerf x unless y gets nerfed” is dumb and accomplishes nothing.
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What are you even smoking? People still complaina bout ww all the time, and for good reason. Even if you know the counterplay it’s very possible to still get totally deleted despite only making a minor mistake.
Also marks is such a weird thing to complain about. Double tap from camo is annoying in the opener sure, but the burst is horribly telegraphed and easy enough to disrupt.
He got it during the prepatch when mmr was all weird.
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I feel that with MM it’s feast or famine there kind of like ret paladin imo. When they are good it’s so over the top everyone complains.
That sheet hits hard.