Again, I’m not talking about today’s WoW. I’m talking about back then. Because people want to use back then as an excuse. Back then, on people’s first WoW day, the majority didn’t have Addons, downloaded. That is the argument being pushed my way about Addons being “old school”, when that’s not the case.
Not everyone was researching about every video game or being that competitive to be downloading Addons.
They find out after they log in with no Addons, though, that’s what I’m saying! You don’t find out, until later! Even then, you still have to research deeper before downloading potential Viruses posing as “Addons”.
There’s two conversations happening. Conversation one, are people not using Addons in today’s WoW. Conversation two, apparently there’s beef of my use of the word “old school”, and how using Addons is somehow “old school”, which I do not believe so. So, which Conversation are you talking about?
And it was. Maybe not their exact first day, but definitely within a month. Now I will agree, there was no questie type add-on. That seems like a newer thing. I also welcome that add-on with open arms rather than alt tabbing to wowhead for advice.
And this is why I disagree with that statement because there was a period of time, when we weren’t using Addons. To me, that’s “Old School”. When you’re using Addons or anything to “spice up” your Game (not saying it’s wrong), it no longer makes it “Old School”. Anytime, you stray away from what was, it’s no longer classified as “Old School”. Now, I’ll give you credit for using “Old School” types of Addons.
But I’m not convinced that being an Add-On User, makes you “Old School”. Again, I’m not saying it’s wrong 'cause I used Addons in Retail, too. I just don’t think it makes you “Old School” just because you use Addons
OMG not using addons =/= playing old school. That is something people say when they didn’t. Addons have been around since practically the beginning. Some people need to cling to anything to try and feel special about themselves.
I use all the ones that I can find that I use on retail. I did start with no addons, but I’m visually impaired, among other physical ailments. I need everything near the center bottom of the screen if I want to keep my sanity and not hurt my neck so I can keep track of what’s going on. For some reason the default plates refused to move for me even when unlocking them.
You are projecting a LOT in this thread. You are assuming that because YOU didn’t use addons in Vanilla, or for a long time, that everyone was the same. I installed a co-ordinate addon, a map addon and a bag addon on my first day playing because I’d read about the game in reviews etc before I bought it, and had friends who played and knew about the system. So I played for about 12 minutes without addons at all, and about 14 months with them, so when I think of playing WoW “old school”, it definitely includes things like addons and key bindings.
Also, I have to agree that your insistence that playing WoW without addons, even if it’s for a few minutes or a week or two, is “old school” is reaching. Throughout the thread, you’ve clung to some strange definition of the term “old school” that I don’t think anyone else agrees with.
Finally, it really feels like you’re a bit smug and think that using no addons makes you a more “hardcore” or “veteran” player or something. You say you knew about them but didn’t use them because you didn’t compare about “competitiveness” or something? How is making my bags function in a way I like better at all competitive? The VAST majority of addons have nothing to do with competition in any way, they are simply to provide information easier or even more commonly to make the interface more aesthetically pleasing.
So, anyway, you can feel smug and think that using addons doesn’t make someone an “old school” player if you like. If you want to die on that particular hill, go right ahead. But the majority of people don’t agree with you - most of us consider an “old school” player to be someone who played during 2004-2006, with or without addons. Oh and I noticed you said ’ I’m not convinced that being an Add-On User, makes you “Old School”. ’ - in your opinion, what makes an “Old School” player?
We, as in all of us. Like I said, you even admitted to on the very first day, that people didn’t use Addons. And maybe didn’t download any, until later:
This whole thing was started, actually by people butthurt because I used the word “Old School”, in a metaphoric sense. And took it way too seriously, but I still stand by using the word. We can continue to argue about it, if you want to. Because apparently words matter, and I have to explain and clarify every word I mean, I guess because people can’t think outside of the box.
Well, neither is using Addons. But, people want to nitpick over my use of the word “oldschool”, so here we are, arguing over this.
Aren’t you projecting, a lot, too? I understand not everyone goes in blindly, but not everyone is on top of their game and researches to play Video Games, either. The link to Researching and/or requiring Addons is usually for competitive reasons. Threat Meters and DPS Charts, I find to be Competitive Addons. If I’m just out Questing, minding my own business, the hell do I need these Addons for? I’ve said this already, second comment in:
I may not have specified, but I guess I have to spell things out for people 'cause y’all like to twist people’s words. For the zillionth time, using Addons is not a bad thing so stop taking it that way.
And “Old School” is just that. Not straying away from the default or trying to break away from the “tradition” set in place.
I think that’s you Addon Users for being butthurt because I’m saying using them doesn’t make you “Old School”. Even though I said using Add Ons isn’t a bad thing. You just like to gloss over that part.
I use and maintain some “old school” addons from vanilla that run in Retail and now Classic. Sometime I find I need to “old school” it to compare how my my “old school” addons work with the original “old school” addons (the stock UI).
BTW, you run addons even if you don’t run 3rd party addons. Either way, I’m “old school” all the way.
As for this, I find questie extremely helpful. Went to 18 without it, then guildie told me about it. I have zero regrets as do the 6.5 million who have downloaded it.
I made it to level 20 on my first character without addons but I found I got tired of running back and forth between the vendor and the auction house trying to figure out if I should vendor stuff I didn’t need or sell it, so I installed VendorPrice. I also found wandering aimlessly trying to find quests much more frustrating than enjoyable, so I installed Questie. I’m also getting pretty close to turning on Dominos for extra action bars and ditching the default bars.
I didn’t play the original Vanilla game so I have no idea which addons were used or how common they were. Don’t really care, either. I’m playing the way that’s most enjoyable for me. It is a game and is supposed to be fun, after all.
