Anyone else having trouble finding Feral Druids and Shadow Priests?

i plan to play both, from Vanilla-current BFA ive always played both factions, whether it be through one or multiple accounts, across several, if not many servers, i enjoy diversity.

that being said Feral Druid OT as a night elf may be a little tricky finding in hardcore raiding since min/maxers will mostly go tauren for it

Our guild recruits Druids and Priests.

If we have too many healers, then some of them can come as dps specs. I think this might be preferable to having a dedicated hybrid dps slot.

We take what we can get on Alliance side!

As a resto druid I don’t want a guild with a feral because that gear should go to resto druids for their non-raiding specs.

ur not my supervisor

I don’t recall that being as prevalent in vanilla. You can kill somebody with better gear if you’re a better pvper than them. It isn’t like BFA where someone gets an ilvl and has 32 million HP more now.

I remember it being the opposite. Vanilla was the most “raid or die” era of WoW. You were either a raider or you were food for those who did raid.

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Class balance should be taken into consideration, too. Good luck killing my frost mage with your raider warrior. One of my favorite things to do in vanilla was mana-burning other casters’ mana bars into nothingness.

Anyway, as said above in a raid with a couple warlocks Shadow will gets a slot, as you buff their DPS.

Skarm is a well known vanilla bear tank. Google for Skarm Tank and you will find a lot of his theory crafting pieces and videos. Feral is a viable main tank in early encounters and a viable off-tank through Naxx 40.

Fair enough. I think the average player who wants to main those specs are going to be in for a rough time though. The community has made that quite clear. Many on these forums have flat out stated that they will not be inviting feral druids/ret paladins/shadow priests/enh and ele shamans to their groups and raids.

My original desire was to play a shadow priest, but decided to go warlock instead just to be safe. Because I want to raid and don’t want to take the chance of being rejected from groups. Wanted to be a mindbending master of darkness, had to settle for just being a master of darkness, lols.

There are certainly classes that a shadow priest will still be able to give a hard time in pvp, much like the warrior and frost mage. I played one through the entirety of vanilla and didn’t have much issue killing people with just the dungeon set, depending on how they played.

Plus there’s always juking an interrupt and then mind controlling them off the UBRS chain :stuck_out_tongue:

Edit: That said I plan on playing all 3 clothies, at some point, so I’ll have alternatives available.

I plan on having 1 of my 3 mains be a feral off tank. I think they are better then people give credit for and definatly a good 3rd option. Pve or pvp realm? Raid times/days?

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The community is wrong. I appreciate your honesty and don’t disagree about what average players will experience. We’ve learned a lot about warcraft since vanilla, and it is time druids claw back. It is up to us to prove it in game.

If I was any kind of strong leader, or person for that matter, I’d be the kind that would invite those lost and forgotten specs into my raid or group. Sadly I cannot run my way out of a paper bag and thus I don’t think I’ll be able to start anything like that. Nevertheless I sympathize with the plight of those who identify with being a blade-swinging crusader of justice, or a ferocious cat, and I think a major Vanilla downside was the lack of viability for those specs. I genuinely think Retail is better in that one regard.

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Are you playing Alliance by chance?

I am, why?

I understand the fear of missing a raid tier. There have been tiers when resto druids were left on the bench. I’m invested in my druid and don’t want to re-roll. It makes my playtime vulnerable to balancing whims.

That said, should a toon be great in BWL? MC? AQ40? Naxx? Some classes do better in early tiers and worse later. Which can do you choose?

Choose being valuable to your raid; sometimes it doesn’t show directly in the meters.

I’m sure if you conformed to the whims of the community and forced yourself to be a healer you’d be fine in all the raid tiers as a druid. And imo, that sucks. If someone doesn’t want to heal, if someone wants to play a druid as the other two specs, they’re laughed at and rejected when it comes to Vanilla. In Retail that is not a thing; you can play Guardian, Balance or Feral to your hearts content and make it to the top.

Every class and spec should be viable all the way from level one to their first Naxx clear. I know that is not a thing, but I consider that a major flaw when it comes to Classic. Classic has other advantages going for it, but that is not one in my eyes.

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I am going Alliance-Whitemane and am going Priest as well as Druid for the entirety of Classic. Let me know!

I was looking around for guilds, and I plan to roll feral druid/ret paladin for mains. For quite some time, the guilds simply said “we already have one” or “lol you’ll heal.”

Ultimately, I don’t really care much about raiding… so I joined a sweet PvP guild.

I’d look into the overall mindset of your fellow guildies. Are they chasing some away?

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