Anyone else Alliance for Life? Just cant enjoy Horde?

[Dinkgus-stormrage]

• No Shoes
• KFC Huts
• Freaky-deeky races
• Population who freaks out when they get a real leader (Garrosh)
  Also
• NO SHOES!

Why would anyone want to subject themselves to this?

[Ambius-wyrmrest-accord]

• Human Male Paladins
• Gnomes
• Diaper Gnomes
• “Tyyyraaaande!” as a racial leader
  Also
• GNOMES!

Why would anyone want to subject themselves to this?

(Note that I don’t REALLY dislike Gnomes, but you had it coming!)

[Dinkgus-stormrage]

@Ambius-wyrmrest-accord

Human Male Paladins

Awesome chaps! Always support your local Paladin

@Ambius-wyrmrest-accord

Gnomes

Are the best, also coming from what is essentially a furry gnome that’s rich.

@Ambius-wyrmrest-accord

Diaper Gnomes

I’ll give you this

@Ambius-wyrmrest-accord

“Tyyyraaaande!” as a racial leader

Tyrande has been awesome since WC3 and I am not going to let people lie about this anymore.

@Ambius-wyrmrest-accord

GNOMES!

Are based!

[Ambius-wyrmrest-accord]

@Dinkgus-stormrage

Awesome chaps! Always support your local Paladin

They need all they can get. Like that one over there? Show him how to tie those shoes you’re so fond of…

@Dinkgus-stormrage

Are the best, also coming from what is essentially a furry gnome that’s rich.

Conversely, does that make you a furrless, nub-eared Vulpera?

@Dinkgus-stormrage

Tyrande has been awesome since WC3 and I am not going to let people lie about this anymore.

Can you imagine being married to such overwhelming melodrama for thousands of years? No wonder Malfurion spends so much time sleeping.

[Dinkgus-stormrage]

@Ambius-wyrmrest-accord

married to such overwhelming melodrama for thousands of years?

None of my married friends are happy so no lmao

[Mikuki-scarlet-crusade (Mikuki)]

Yeah nah, Horde is evil…don’t care what good side you see when you play them, seen more than enough of the bad to make a judgement

[Elaera-windrunner]

@Aprilìs-moon-guard

I can’t really deal with Horde aesthetics being only orc-flavored, despite the plethora of cultures mixing together. It isn’t even that I hate orc aesthetics, they’re cool in that war band rough and tumble tribal way! But that isn’t really what I want to see all. the. time.

They have elves in the Horde, for goodness sake. Least they could do is give us some more elf aesthetics/zones outside of Silvermoon and Suramar (which we can’t even walk around in unhassled, neutral shard when Blizz??). I feel like Orgrimmar in general needs to be redesigned.

The points made in the post are good ones, but as to this specifically. It would be nice to have more non-orc aesthetic representation out in the world, but when have we really had non-human focused aesthetics Alliance side besides the allied race ones in legion/BFA, same as the lack of non-orc ones outside the same?

The only time we’ve really had non-human, or non-orc focused aesthetics (Alliance garrison also being Human focused same as Horde was Orc) is racial start zones and immediately neighboring ones (Dun Morogh and Loch Modan for Dwarves, same as Tirisfal and Silverpine for Undead, etc…)

[Ilidaria-anetheron (Ilidaria)]

You’ve ONLY seen from the perspective of the Alliance storyline, just saying. I’ll repeat that I play BOTH sides, so you are biased when making that statement, at least until you play through a Horde campaign from 1-70.

[Grimoire-stormrage]

@Ilidaria-anetheron

You’ve ONLY seen from the perspective of the Alliance storyline, just saying.

Hmmm this reminds me of something…
“From my point of view the Jedi are evil”

Sympathy for the Devil card it is

[Ilidaria-anetheron (Ilidaria)]

@Ilidaria-anetheron

you are biased when making that statement, at least until you play through a Horde campaign from 1-70.

you are biased when making that statement, at least until you play through a Horde campaign from 1-70.

[Grimoire-stormrage]

@Ilidaria-anetheron

you are biased when making that statement, at least until you play through a Horde campaign from 1-70.

I have. Mainly because I wanted to get the achievement that gives you the Wolf/Horse and to do some stuff with my husband. I will tell you I did feel like the villain most of the time. I really do not enjoy playing the antagonist

Trust me I’d be Horde if I could; because my own husband is Horde. I just cant do it. The Aesthetics kill it for me. I was also not a fan of The Horde story or NPCs yelling at me. With that said my husband is kind of the opposite of me in games he likes being the bad guy.

I guess this is why when we play SWTOR he is Imp and Im Pub.

[Meltrissa-thrall]

Being republic doesn’t necessarily mean being good though, Darkside Jedi Consular is some great story, and one has their own pirate army by the end loyal to the character personally.

And the Republic appreciates them even if the Jedi do not (the Jedi Order refuses to make the character a Jedi Master, but the Republic says those guys are wrong for doing that to you, so we’re making you a General in the Republic in spite of them)

(I’ve done way to much SWoTR, having played fully through fully lightside & fully darkside of every Republic and Imperial class, same as one of every class on Alliance & Horde to max for WoW)

[Brounev-moon-guard]

I started Horde, then went Alliance, and have mostly stayed there.

It really comes down to the cities and hubs for me. Orgrimmar sucks. Dazaralor also sucks. Thunder Bluff is nice but too disconnected. I’m indifferent to Silvermoon.

I play both for the story and variety but I love me some Alliance. They just have much better cities and aesthetics.

I’m an RPer and I remember making my Dracthyr on Horde before DF launched. I couldn’t find anywhere I wanted to set her Hearth that was practical, because she is a very academic and intelligent type. Orgrimmar doesn’t have any areas that reflect people with scholarly interests and I couldn’t imagine her being happy in a shanty mud but.

Nevermind the poor Nightborne and Blood Elves.

[Thurbanks-wyrmrest-accord]

Team both sides.

[Tikaru-stormrage]

I have two max level Horde characters, but I would say that over 90% of my time is spent on the Alliance.

[Fostracize-frostwolf]

@Ilidaria-anetheron

Point by point response.

All my points stand. Your responses have been archived in my recycle bin.

[Ilidaria-anetheron (Ilidaria)]

In MoP, as a Horde, the local Pandaren explain that they were helping the Alliance survivors, and weren’t allowed to leave until the Alliance airbase was built. That sounded like they were using those Pandaren as slave labor. Then there was the Foresaken fleet that was about to send a landing party to the shore in the Broken Isles, and the Alliance broke the truce, and attacked them. Then there’s the Alliance annexing part of the Barrens, and using the Grimtotems to attack the Tauren.

[Meltrissa-thrall]

@Ilidaria-anetheron

In MoP, as a Horde, the local Pandaren explain that they were helping the Alliance survivors, and weren’t allowed to leave until the Alliance airbase was built. That sounded like they were using those Pandaren as slave labor.

Unreliable Allies

Not to mention the whole situation with the Vulpera:

Nisha can be found protecting a burning caravan near the southern end of the gulch. Upon speaking with her:

Look at this destruction, name!

The only thing these caravans were guilty of was accepting a good-paying job to transport supplies.

We vulpera have been free merchants and traders for countless generations. What makes the Alliance think they can bully us into refusing work from people they don’t like?

They’re no better than the sethrak… and you know how I deal with sethrak.

You in? I’ve got plenty of useful goodies here that you can use to fight like a vulpera!

Give me the supplies. I’ll defend the vulpera!

Nisha says: This is one of Tacha’s backpacks. She always keeps them packed with useful stuff!

Nisha says: I’ll keep this area safe for fleeing vulpera. Get in that gulch and take down anything attacking my people!

That at least has some justification as it was wartime, however the fact they see these intricate caravans that are obviously more then pulled carts, and a people they have never met, and go right to burning them instead of talking to them, is not a ‘good guy’ act.

Also ignoring the fact the Alliance squads were called Purge squads before it was changed, likely from the massive backlash from the PTR players:
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/407922285282852865/502264738328346644/WoWScrnShot_101718_164025.jpg?width=1084&height=610

[Aprilìs-moon-guard]

@Elaera-windrunner

when have we really had non-human focused aesthetics Alliance side

A few more times than Horde, it feels like, though not by a large margin - but at the end of the day, I don’t quite mind the human-dominant aesthetic since it’s… at least pleasing to the eye, for me.

I’m forever going to be upset we couldn’t have a choice of garrison building design, though. Even just giving us like The Big Three, aesthetics-wise, would’ve been better than forcing human/orc aesthetic on the place.

[Bojanglz-whisperwind (Bojanglz)]

I am Alliance for life! I did try horde back in Wrath at one point because I played to raid hardcore all these expansions (and Vanilla) and the guild I was in was falling apart so wanted a change of scenery and tried Horde. Transferred back to Alliance once I found another raiding guild as soon as my transfer CD was up.

I missed being a gnome too much and I missed SW and IF etc.