Anybody remember when

I thought it was the Jailor.

thats it…the jailor bitter about his defeat time warped and removed lfd to sow hate among the heroes of azeroth. he is looking to drive us apart.

Jailor…you sly dog.

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THANK YOU for that post.

“Didn’t happen to me so you must be lying”

By your logic anybody who has been struck by lightning, run over by a car, or won the lottery must be liars too.

Amazing logic. Amazing.

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Exactly. A lot of this stuff happens normally in groups. No loot is safe. Rogues will roll on tank weapons etc.

I never said that. Reading doesn’t seem to be your strong point. You asked if we remembered many different things. I simply answered that most of them never happened to me and a couple did. Why did you ask the questions if you didn’t want an answer?

Taken out of context, was responding to a post complaing they didn’t have time to play. You must have a crush on me to target and seek me out all over the forum,

You actually think I care. That’s adorable. I didn’t even notice your name when I posted to you. I didn’t know who I was posting to. I don’t remember what I said to you or what you posted to me a day ago. I read the comments and don’t even look at anyone’s name. I just saw an comment I wanted to respond to.

Same to… alll of this.

These people seem to think that only RDF caused these problems.

I get people need rolling to DE NOW.
I get people who leave NOW once the boss they want is dead.
We have spamming /4 for over an hour NOW.
I get people whispering me that they can fill a role in the group just for it to be clear they arn’t the role they said they can fill NOW.
I was made to believe these issues only arive with RDF by the anti-dungeon-finder crowed. This all happens NOW without the system. Its almost like its the people that are the problem.
Not to mention tanks/healers who hold groups hostage unless they get all non-upgrade drops.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjrfUxKqPjI&t=879s They even agree the tool isn’t a bad tool. Its good for what it does, allows players to play and run a dungeon when otherwise they wouldn’t have the chance to run.

EDIT-
All of the above reasons that are against RDF, will still exist in a world where there is no RDF because of human nature.

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Does no one use the LFG tool we have now? If people actually did instead of exclusively lfg chat it would be fine.

Just list yourself for the dungeon you want and wait for whispers. Or list that you are LFM and wait for whispers.

The tool we got is fine. Its the fact that everyone has been told not to use it is the problem.

Warning***: I say this as a tank that doesn’t run dungeons unless asked so my view is highly biased and can’t be trusted.

Another awesome experience was complete lack of group comps so you got absolutely 0 AOE in the group and the party would either disband immediately or take 4-5 times longer to clear the dungeon.

Another version of that was getting 5 plate users in the same dungeon run and everyone leaving.

Another great experience especially in the early stages were people queueing as a role and immediately asking if anyone else could tank or heal since they just picked it for faster queues, then leaving or making you votekick them and wait another 30+ minutes.

So many of these people complain that they CHOSE to play on a megaserver and that they have these experiences already. Who’s fault is that?

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I 'member…

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exactly all that same BS happened back during classic wow too

Please just stop lol

You’ve claimed every possible bad outcome that could happen in a group happened to you. That’s like saying you’ve been struck by lightning, been run over by a care and won the lottery. I can think of two possible reasons, either you’re the most unlucky person in the world or you’re lying.

Try and read this carefully. I didn’t say that. I said.

Why didn’t you claim, “Didn’t happen to me so you must be very unlucky” Wouldn’t that be just as true, or false? Given it’s the internet and how unlikely the chain of events you claim to have experienced considering the possibility you’re lying is just common sense. Or do you believe everything you read on the internet?

The truth is people have flawed memories to begin with.

But you’re not really talking about what people remember. You’re talking about what memories you believe are important and ignoring other memories.

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You mean like how people ignore the fact that LFD created way more problems than it solved?

Or how it wasn’t in until the tail end of the expansion despite people describing it as the “focal point of WotLK” and its “biggest feature”?

Its amazing how disingenuous you guys can be, pretending like you never had any of the mentioned things happen to you ever. Its ok though the rest of us remember and will gladly move on and embrace a WotLK without LFD.

It’s funny you say this after mentioning LFD was added at the tail end of Wrath when it was more like the half way mark.

3/4 of what you mentioned doesn’t even pertain to LFD as they are all things that happen right now without in TBC.

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I’m sorry I don’t count the massive content drought that occured after RS.

I’ll let Aurumai explain it to you though:

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So you not taking facts into account isn’t disingenuous?

Truth is people are going to leave before runs start, leave after the first wipe, ninja loot and more all regardless of LFD.

LFD isn’t without it’s faults but it’s not all negative either.

Also the timeline of when and where or how long LFD was out in WotLK has nothing to do with my original post. But keep trying though.