Nice blog lol
It’s not a horrible argument. It’s not an argument at all. I’m stating what has happened. I’ve been on the forums since Vanilla. I’ve been on these Classic forums since they first were created. Take for example the Wall of No troll who keeps posting in this thread. From the second this forum existed he’s said how awful Vanilla is and how things need to be changed. Made thousands of posts. Focusing on one topic, and then another, and then another, and then another. Progressed into TBC with the same habits. Whether Blizz addresses it and implements a change, or merely says ‘it’s not happening’. He just moves on to the next topic and obsesses over that. And there’s many posters here who exhibit the same behavior.
I’m not trying to humiliate anyone. There’s no intent in stating facts. And beyond that I know damn well after 4-5 years he’s never going to stop. He revels in this. He loves the attention.
And as far as this ridiculous ‘gatekeeping’ argument, think about how warped someone’s viewpoint must be to say such a thing. This is a Classic server. It’s made so players can experience the game as it was back during that expansion. People have skewed their stance to such a point that someone says, “A TBC server should represent the TBC experience” and THAT is seen as illogical. That has been labeled gatekeeping.
How am I supposed to take anyone seriously who has that kind of perspective? Particularly when the most loud and outspoken on these topics actively fought against Classic servers even being made.
And yet people who want an accurate representation are the pariahs? We’re supposed to feel shame? Seriously? Because Blizz has caved into the 1% of entitled forum posters (for the second time in WoW’s history), for a few changes. But luckily not too many. No, it’s more that we’ve been down this road before and are hoping the Classic devs don’t make the same mistake a second time.
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If you think I’m participating less out of some type of “humiliation” you are more delusional than I thought.
I’ve taken a step back from this discussion because I am trying to not waste my time arguing with idiots as much. The most humiliating part of this discussion is how delusional many posters like you are, with the fact (assuming this part) we are the same species. It’s an embarrassing thing to share a species classification with people so engrossed in themselves that they think the slightest inconvenience to themselves means the system is broken and needs to be fixed…
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No one has any idea what you’re talking about.
Except you’re not stating facts. You’re posting nonsense deliberately chosen to be insulting. I’ve called you out on your nonsense several times and you just refuse to respond when I do. That’s the game you play here. /shrug.
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Wise words. Unfortunately boredom supersedes wisdom at times.
He’s referring to Ziryus. Zaalg has been harassing Ziryus with that same line of attack on probably a dozen different characters for close to four years now.
There’s a lot more but I’m not wasting my time digging them up. Fasc, you’ve probably noticed with that Shaman going after you but there’s a lot of unstable people on this forum.
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Yeah there are some… odd… personalities leaking into the forums. Everything is a damnable crusade with some of them.
I was wondering who Zaalg actually was given his posting behavior but it makes sense he’s constantly swapping toons and likely getting forum vacations from time to time. Absolutely bizarre.
And yet you’re so self centered you get bent out of shape about other people using an optional feature that wouldn’t impact your game play but would be a big improvement for others just because you are vaguely offended others don’t play the game in the way you have arbitrarily deemed “correct”
don’t think you’ll see it in TBC as it didn’t exist back then more so you’ll get it in Wrath.
You know what’s going to bake your noodle later on?
Dual Spec wasn’t in Wrath from the start, and they may choose to release it in a similar timeframe mid expansion.
I’m not sure that I know who you are, or if I’ve ever actually crossed paths with you on one of these threads but I don’t know if I was referring to you. If you’re going to deny that the anti dual spec folks have ignored the evidence of actual changes and developer comments about current and future intentions, then cool, your opinion has become worthless.
If you hadn’t read other threads (I guess I don’t blame you) where developer interviews have been linked, lists of changes compiled, I’d encourage you to do so. I’d also encourage you to approach the threads from an unbiased perspective, understanding the difference between facts based evidence, and feelings.
Finally, many of the changes that have been made to TBCC were requested by the community (not all of them). This does follow the developers stated intent that Blizzard will continue to develop TBCC alongside the community. This leaves the door open to literally any change that players request. Whether it will happen or not is entirely up to Blizzard. We won’t know if it will happen until wrath prepatch hits. Until then, it’s possible, and Blizzard has asked for the community to provide feedback on what changes they would like to see.
There are no facts that say that dual spec won’t be implemented. I’m not sure what you’re saying, I’m not sure you’re suggesting that you do have some facts. If you’ve got them, please post them. There have been literally zero direct comments from Blizzard devs about dual spec during the entire time that we’ve had classic. Only TBCC developer team comments are important of course because they are the ones making decisions. They are not beholden to the intent of the 2007 devs, as can be proven by the myriad changes we’ve had in TBCC.
I’m sorry, it appears that you literally aren’t up to date on the changes that have happened in TBCC compared to TBC. Please review other threads and you’ll come out better informed.
I hope this helps.
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We have already gone down this rabbit hole ziryus.
It’s not what I am deeming correct. It’s what blizzard of tbc, and the blizzard of today have deemed correct for tbcc.
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Irrelevant; 2007 called to say they got a new job, and to talk to the current team.
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Which is irrelevant because QoL improvements are on the table for TBC Classic.
I am going to use an argument someone else used…
But “most” of us don’t want dual spec.
No, I have no reference, but I’m sure I saw a blue survey somewhere saying this is true, plus, if I say it, it must be true right?
The people working on Classic TBC had nothing to do with TBC. I’m far more interested in what those old devs think of how this project is being handled. And that’s on record for several of them. I consider myself speaking on their behalf. This was their game.
But of course that doesn’t matter. The ones holding the reigns now call the shots. I acknowledge and accept that. But we’re not interacting with those Classic employees here. We’re taking to clueless forum posters obsessed with their own personal bias. Authenticity has no bias (which drives me and my posts).
I will forever represent the people who made the greatest game ever, as well as the silent masses who simply want to experience the old game as it was. To me that is the entire point of these Classic servers.
Can you connect my comment and the meaning behind it to your response? Consider me confused.
Is the development team from 2007 the same as the 2021 TBC team?
Did Patrick Dawson make a statement about dual spec during classic TBC, or did he make a statement about continuous and ongoing development (changes) alongside the community?
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This is ADORABLE, an honest-to-goodness white knight for Blizzard, but specifically a fanciful version of Blizzard that doesn’t exist!
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Current team wouldnt appear to be pro dual spec in tbcc either.