Any advice on arms warrior?

My dps seems very low, like single target im pushing maybe 10-11k DPS and every other arms warrior i group with is doing double that.

Looking at the meters theyre using the same spells i am but theirs is doing crazy damage and mine feels weak.

Is it maybe my weapon? Im hit capped, and almost expertise capped. Rocking a 316 ilvl 2hander. I feel like im dragging my groups down but at the same time arms warrior doesnt feel difficult to play, simple rotation but man i feel weak

Do you have stances tied into every single ability? You macro every ability except overpower charge and thunderclap into berserking stance and put those 3 in battle and keep them all on a single non changing bar. That was the biggest help for me to increase my damage.

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I do not have that. Today i tried switching to berserker stance inbetween overpower procs and my dps was even lower lol

The weapon definitely plays a big part. You can get a 333 weapon from coc in twilight highlands until you get a heroic weapon

I mean this is really low lvl weapon. You can consider getting the Tol Borad 346 Rep weapons. If you farm the daily’s you get good gold too. Not only that some important trinkets latter for some fights.

You can also consider doing Yolo RBGs and slowly getting the Conquest 365 weapon.

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First, do not start dance with swapping. It’s like a 3% damage increase when done perfectly, which is not very easy to do, and a massive dps loss when done poorly.

So, my first recommendation is to really find a guide that lays out your priority system, and perfect that easier, battle stance rotation.

Second, your weapon is absolute garbage, and if that’s indicative of your overall gear then of course you’re not competing with many other warriors who are maybe 350-360 ilvl.

Do some heroics and get some better gear before comparing yourself to others too much. You can do CoC for a 345 weapon, or try and cap some arena for the 359 PvP one, or just send a bunch of heroics to rng one.

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Maybe if you aren’t doing anything else other than logging in and doing the dailies, you’ll have the rep/resources to purchase this weapon while it’s still useful, but I feel like it’s way too gated to be of use for most players by the time they can get it.

You could also just do arenas and get a pvp weapon with conq. And you could grind that out in one session.

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You can get it in 3 days? I got exalted in the first week and bought the Mastery Epic Trinket.

It’s really not gated and one of the easier Reps to raise the weapon is only Revered and like 85 Commendations. Also again many people will want exalted anyways for the Epic trinkets like Mirror for some fights.

This is more of a grind but I did also suggest it.

How do you get enough badges in 3 days? And rep? From Tol Barad or…?

Well, it sounds like I’m just doing it wrong. What should I be doing other than the daily quests from town?

Fair enough!

:woman_shrugging:

You get what 30+ badges a day and like 8k rep.

You seem to not be doing the main Daily Quest by BH. There are about 22 Daily Quest. (super easy and grouped together)

So you will get probably close to 1k gold a day and all the commendations you need in 3 days. It’s extremely fast.

Is that accurate? I have 45 badges and have been doing the dailies for about a week, so… idk?

Oh… that seems likely. Are they inside the BG area? Do I just go inside to pick them up?

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Yea you are missing the main Quest Hub. Honestly I forgot about it the first few days too.

Yes you leave town go over the bridge into Tol Borad BG. It’s the main base where BH Raid is. There are 2 Quest hubs for each faction. Each NPC has 3 Quest. They are super chill easy Quest and sometimes you have some fun WPVP if you desire. Some of the Quest give 400+ Rep it’s really a lot of gold and commendations.

It’s really 22 Daily Quest I cleared my Quest log for 3 days when I did it.

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There’s two sets of Tol Barad Dailies, the 6 you get in the northern area, and there’s like 12 more down south, though once you get everything you want from the badges, the southern ones aren’t worth doing anymore with their low gold rewards.

Simple delete war and play a dk. War dps has and always will be dumpster.

Not true. War DPS is good.

I simmed my character with all the gear and it says i should be doing 20k dps. Which i can do on cleave or aoe of course but man my single target is cheeks

Has and always will be… shows you havent played for that long to really know. Warrior dps was BiS for vanilla amd tbc and still up there in wrath. They arent as good in cata, but to say they have never and will never be good is just blatantly false.

My man, lesssgo

No, you get 18. There are 18 quests.

Something I should have mentioned was that when people say “Stance Dancing” what they really mean is closer to “Macro Dancing,” and in this way, it’s very, very simple.

For Battle Stance you want to macro Rend, Overpower, and Thunderclap. One of the macros looks like this:

#showtooltip Rend
/startattack
/cast [nostance:1] Battle Stance
/cast Rend

And for pretty much every other damaging ability, you want to cast it in Berserker Stance. This includes, Mortal Strike, Execute, Whirlwind, Slam, etc. These look like this:

Mortal Strike
#showtooltip Mortal Strike
/startattack
/cast [nostance:3] Berserker Stance
/cast Mortal Strike

I don’t macro heroic strike since it’s off the gcd and can become wonky, but otherwise, you’ll want to do this.

Couple notes. First, I don’t use these macros when in Prot Stance because I don’t want to get tripped into Battle or Berserker if I’m in trouble and need to tank a bit. Second, this does hurt button bloat a little bit because you’ll no longer be able to space out your battle and berserker abilities. For example, Overpower used to be Hotkey 2 on Battle Stance while Whirlwind was Hotkey 2 in Berserker Stance. However, since I now need to cast it in both Stances, it’s just Hotkey 2 on both.

Anyway, get a new weapon, setup these stance dancing macros, and make sure you are hit/expertise capped and I’m sure you’ll notice a nice rise in your dps. If you still don’t, join the Fight Club warrior discord and check out the Pins in the Arms Warrior PvE Cata Tab. There’s some really helpful information in there about gearing, rotation, all that stuff.

Cheers mate and good luck