Antumbra, Shadow of the Cosmos - The sun is evil!

A trap that also would have succeeded had ‘Magic-Bones Anduin’ not decided to pull back his forces and march with a five man group into the Undercity’s entrance like he’s starting a dungeon run.

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This is why I would’ve liked it if following the events of Silithus, the Alliance got a large chuck of Azerite and was going to move it to Teldrassil from Feathermoon Stronghold. At least that would be why the fleet would be down there instead of falling for a bait and switch.

It most likely was just a knee jerk reaction. Either from Saurfang failing to kill Malfurion or from Dalaeryn refusing to give up hope. However we know it was neither of those things. Thank you Shadowlands…

It didn’t help that Blizzard simply forgot about the Vindicaar and never gave a sound reason why it was not involved at all. I mean why wouldn’t the Alliance use an orbital spacestation with a mega lazer and drop pods that create portals on demand to defend one of their strongholds on Kalimdor?

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Did Tyrande send a fleet in response to the Horde army “coming to Silithus”? Or because of a spy report from a goblin?.. In general, Tyrande reacts rather than acts preemptively. Right?

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You would think after attacking the Alliance and horde forces back in WC3 on the eve of the Legion invading Ashenvale and then wanting to rush into an obvious trap back in MoP would make her wise up when she is being played.

This is why I hate the war of thorns. It required characters to act stupid along with certain assets to be flat out ignored for it to happen.

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they also forget they have a gun pointed at Stormwind in Azshara. With the power of Azerite and all the azerite Gallywix was hoarding you would think Stormwind would be a crater by now…

…they are never going to fire that Chekov’s gun at this rate :frowning:

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Knowing goblins they will fire it but it will simply blow up in their faces.

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I’d pay to see that.

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No, I was talking about the sequence of events before the War of Thorns, not Tyrande’s tendencies. Bad wording.

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Yes. Saurfang made a show of having the Horde march towards Silithus so the fleet was sent there when they learned about it, then when it was halfway there Saurfang turned around and had the Horde march into Ashenvale.

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I want to know his, how did Saurfang know where the fleet was? There is like a whole landmass between them and the west coast of Kalimdor.

And honestly it was made pointless as the fleet was back in Teldrassil like a week later. I doubt it takes a week to go from Teldrassil to Feralas and back. Considering it took Arthas a month to go from Lordaeron to Howling Fjord.

One thing I hate about Christee Golden, she believes the ingame scale is the canonical scale.

Assigned or acting on his own, I don’t think the name of the dagger has anything to do with the Light or Void any more than the Singularity buff the dagger gives. It is most likely just a random astronomical word pulled that sounds cool because the Constellars are constellation themed.

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Knowing blizzard it most likely is and people are just reading too much into it.

IIRC Saurfang had scouts giving him information, and he could’ve done some estimating. I haven’t read the story where this is mentioned but I’ve heard it elsewhere. In regards to travel time, it’s whatever authors/Blizzard makes it. It doesn’t concern me much unless it’s literally game scale as was shown in War Crimes. That’s when it gets stupid.

I would say a massive fleet taking a week to travel down 2/3 of a continent and back is on the stupid side.

I disagree.

When it took Arthas a month to go from Lordaeron to Northrend back in WC3… yeah it is.

Keep in mind that these boats are not using powerful engines.

That’s between two continents though.

Two continents that are relevantly close to each other. Using ships that rely mostly on wind and sails to move.

It makes the effect of duping them redundent if they show up a week later and the horde is only halfway through Darkshore at that point. I mean the fleet could’ve sieged the horde from the shore while deploying troops to out flank the horde from behind.

How are they close to each other? Are you getting that from what’s shown on the map?

If the wow writers want to use the ingame scale for everything now, shouldn’t we do the same?

My main issue is not so much the travel time being unrealistic but more so because it doesn’t make sense to do it from a narrative perspective. I mean if the fleet could’ve easily returned to Ashenvale / Darkshore that quickly, why didn’t they land in Ashenvale and outflank the horde from behind? Most of the hordes army was in Darkshore at that point.