Yes, that’s what someone with zero experience with this would say. At least you’re fitting the bill.
My interactions so far without RDF has been the same as if playing with RDF. It’s that shallow, I haven’t come across anything special like you said. But my point remains, that you enjoy Anti-RDF way. Why force me to do your Anti-RDF way. I wouldn’t force you to do my RDF way.
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I’ve played since vanilla. Came back for classic relaunch.
I’ve already seen this and gone through all this before. You’re not fooling anyone.
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Then you’d know when RDF was first implemented there was consensus on all Blizzard related forums about the damage it caused.
You mean the positivity it created.
Everything that comes out of you is subjective and you keep trying to pass it off as fact.
It caused so much damage that they never took it out again alongside LFR, which both exist in retail? C’mon.
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You know what you accuse of me is an accusation of yourself too, right?
For that to be true, I would’ve had to have received my LFR during classic or BC.
Didn’t happen.
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… No. Everything you say is also subjective. Well, not everything, nor is everything I say. There are factual, observable consequences of RDF and other systems both implemented and not implemented. The subjective part is how you respond to those consequences.
Again, everything you accuse me of you do yourself.
RDF caused some damage but no RDF is not the answer. Same could be said about flying caused some damage but no flying is not the answer. Which is why we have many people calling for RDF. Otherwise, there would have been a overall majority saying they’re perfectly happy without RDF.
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i like how people think that the socialness of their group is going to be changed by some game system.
hey guys i think it might depend on the people in the group, i’m not sure why though but it might not be the game system.
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You don’t have many more people calling for RDF, though. People aren’t inclined to come to headache inducing forums to boast about things they like as a status quo as much as they are inclined to complain about something. You’re a victim of confirmation bias.
Also, no flying is a pretty good answer for me apart from zones specifically being designed for it. In retail as zones are designed for both flying and not flying, I’d have much preferred the recent expansions more had they never implemented flying.
True. Some people have had 2 eras, Classic and BC without RDF, now into a 3rd era, Wrath. Yet still won’t let others play a different way. This is part of the original topic of this post that I’m accused of not getting.
Yes the people matter, but so do incentives. When the onus is on the player to be cordial and competent to get further groups, the incentive of having no dungeon finder (or LFG tool, frankly) contributes to a better experience for people looking for it.
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I doubt that all these people who call for RDF count as not many. I doubt that this is a confirmation bias since I’m from a stand point of either is fine but now leaning toward RDF. Also, if you’re pointing out that Blizz stated in an interview that the majority wanted no RDF. That statement sounds a lot like when they said the majority wanted to spend $30 to save a copy of your character in Classic Era instead of $10, which was very suspicious, and then Blizz ended up reducing it to $10 because of an outrage.
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When did they say a majority wanted to spend $30?
No. Don’t be lazy and use the amazing lfg tool
What you mean is a bunch of people have played since 2019. Paid to play since 2019 and have been loyal to classic WoW.
These players don’t seem to care.
So, what they want (or don’t really care about) is more important than what new age Wrath babies care about.
Classic isn’t for those who came back for Wrath. It’s for those who have been loyal to it for 3 years.
You control the narrative by manipulating some facts about how societies work, and by trying to make them look bad and nasty.
Log on a Horde character and try to speak to an Alliance member; that is something that was forced by design, not something that we chose. You are only using the negative connotation of “to force” ad libitum. We are forced to have a passport to exit the country, and have a visa to enter some others. You are forced to use a land mount in Kalimdor and Eastern Kingdoms. So no, forcing things is NOT RIDICULOUS.
If you spam something, and someone whispers, the moment they do, a social interaction takes places by definition. RDF reduces these social interactions, ergo it is a negative social impact.
There used to be more social interactions before RDF. Actually, you could form groups by using social interactions and there was no other way. So, let me put it in a simple way: before RDF, social interaction was the only way to get a group; after RDF, you don’t need a single social interaction to do the same. It removed the need to have a social interaction to get a group, no matter how you want to see it.
Well, the fact that you don’t know much about sociology, psychology, and other social sciences doesn’t mean that I’m not using facts; there are multiple studies explaining what social interactions are, and why they are beneficial to both, the society and its individuals. The bright side is that science is unbiased, and our opinions don’t matter when it comes to definitions.
Speaking of, go look for the definition of social interaction. Social interaction does not equate to have a meaning conversation and make a friend out of it, but social interactions constitute the basis of the social experience de facto. And no, this isn’t my opinion, it is a fact.
And this is what I mean on how you control the narrative: every opinion is selfish in the sense that only you can know how every experience is for you, some people can agree on opinions, but no two people can have the same experience and perceive it in the same way. You are the one that is trying to make look my opinion as horrific.
Perhaps you did not understand when I said The benefits are there, available to everyone; to take them or not is a personal choice. Removing RDF forces us to have social interactions, and that’s a good thing because more people engaging with others is always beneficial; even if you disagree or fight with someone, there’s benefit in doing so, and this isn’t my opinion, psychologists have studied this before. I’ll wait and see how you discredit psychology this time…
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love it when people like you use this argument. who’s gonna break it to them what patch is being used for wrath classic? oh fine ill do it…the last patch.
When they give out a bunch of surveys with prices ranging from $10 to $40 and they finalized the price at $35 before reducing it to $15 (my mistake, it went from $35 to $15 not $30 to $10) that’s basically saying “oh btw, the majority of people wants to spend this much for this service”.
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