RDF helped people to not have social interactions, and the consequences branched out. Forcing people to have social interactions is beneficial to everyone; anti-social people are not going to step outside their comfort zone if you provide them with the tools to remain in there.
But now people know what is like to have such a convenient tool, and are not willing to go back. Interacting with others brings intrinsic rewards and benefits. “Social interaction” doesn’t mean “make friends”, and when people complain of “nobody talks or says anything” is a result of that impact I was talking about. Even a “SFK?” is better than nothing at all, hec, I prefer to see “gg” rather than nothing at all.
And those that complain about how silent runs are, my question to them is “what are you doing to change that?” or “how willing are you to change that?”
I’m very shy, believe it or not; I’ve worked on that and I’ve seen the personal benefits. I can’t convince others to do the same, but the benefits are there, available to everyone. In my personal experience, I have more interactions than not: my runs haven’t been silent, and that’s something I’m not willing to give up.
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So u are basically saying the classic dev team should go play classic wow?
Also are you going to pay for peoples subscription did this turn into iran or russia where u get to tell us what we can play and cant?
No i didnt think so the funny thing is you are blaming players for no rdf. Go watch the announcement video of wrath classic and dragonflight its around the 18 to 20 minute mark where the dev team says there will be no rdf.
Until they change there mind bugger off.
wrong again. i built a 300+ member guild from using rdf, had a few players transfer servers to join us on nordrassil after running with us in RDF. your statement is false as i know several others built guilds the same way.
Is never a good idea. you should NEVER force things on people. no means no. actually arguing for forcing people and taking away their choices is disgusting. the fact that you think your right and its a good thing to FORCE people to do things is even more disturbing.
wrong again, it was already happening in LFG chat channel and the spamming that was already going on. people were migrating to guilds for social interaction, NOT using spam chat channels.
the only ones complaining about silent runs are the folks that agree with you, that FORCING people to do things they dont want to do is a good thing for the game. its sick and twisted to think thats a good idea.
great, good for you, but not sure why you think that will or should apply to everyone.l
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So… are we playing with robots or something? Because we’re still interacting with other players no matter what… don’t know where this brainlet logic is coming from.
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I never said it stops people from doing so. When have I said “if you use RDF, you won’t ever have a social interaction again”?
Yet, you need a driver license to drive; where I’m from, you are forced to wear the seat belt and get a car insurance. You can’t simply get on a plane and pilot it. And the list goes on and on.
What exactly was happening in LFG chat? Some guild recruiting happens in LFG chat channel.
Actually, the ones that would agree with me wouldn’t complain about that because they would look for a way to break that silence. This argument is mostly used by pro-RDFers.
And here’s classical Daysgoneby controlling the narrative again. Talk to a lawyer, perhaps they can do a better job than me at explaining why forcing some things is good.
Keyword: social
No wonder why people in different threads keep saying that you embarass yourself, resorting to pejorative terms or insults…
Do they shut off chat? No… I don’t know what delusion you are under. Only people who are saying I am embarrasing myself and the same 
s who think RDF is a bad thing and they can’t handle the fact that they can’t bring anything to the table… the same story you’re telling.
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Because being social has brought me more good than the opposite: I am happier, healthier and things are working out for me after I changed. The benefits are there, available to everyone; to take them or not is a personal choice.
That, or that you are not willing to have a civilized conversation. Welcome to my ignore list.
Lol, thanks for proving I’m right!
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You’ll get RDF when it comes out. If you’re a ‘wrath player’ you should recognize that RDF was never in the game on launch. If you’re okay with ‘some changes’, then great, how about we implement a change in which RDF is NEVER implemented so as to preserve the spirit of classic.
Someone dissenting or not willing to engage with you doesn’t automatically make you right, this is such a tired cope.
first, comparing a video game forcing social interaction to the rule of law is RIDICULOUS and far below you. its really sad that you think any of that does anything but make you look desperate to prove a point you cant prove.
the spamming for looking for a group was happening, there was no social interaction anymore than there is now. general chat and trade chat were the channels we recruitef for guilds in and made guild alliances. rdf did NOT have a negative social impact in game.
so completely wrong. they pro rdf’ers use the lack of social communication in a run as a way to prove that RDF in no way killed social interaction because the garbage lfg tool does nothing to change the amount of social interaction. its not complaining about them like the anti rdf’ers seem to be doing about “silent runs” in rdf.
and here you go again, trying to say someone controls the narrative because you refuse to acknowledge that you have zero facts to back your play and cant refute the facts being shown to you that youre wrong. you may want to go back to your liberal arts college for the next chapter in “how to debate when you have no facts”
and there it is. its your SELFISH opinion that since your experience worked for you EVERYONE should be forced to live in your little bubble and you should fight to take away their choice to play their way.
This just makes you look self entitled and disguasting. glad you had success but stop forcing your ways on everyone else. its horrific and one sided and selfish.
neither was dual spec or a hundred other things. stop arguing from false foundations. i was all for it being original wrath and would have been fine waiting for rdf to show up when it did before… but instead, brian decides that the only people that matter are his pvp crew and what they want, and then they use the false “social interaction” bs to justify their changes.
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Well, luckily we don’t have RDF right now and I had a fun time gearing! LFG works great
What larger implications? What topic don’t I get?
Without RDF a lot of recruitment for guilds comes from running dungeons. Without RDF a lot of relationships come from forming the group for a dungeon. Without RDF players are required to at some level communicate with one another. Without RDF players expectations are managed to require the effort which running a dungeon deserves. Without RDF we understand that the formation of the group is just as much the gameplay of an MMO as doing the dungeon would be. Interaction matters. Creating systems to bypass those interactions is no different than creating a button that gives you the dungeon loot for no work.
You’re arguing with a hypocrite who makes ignorant comments like this…
Save yourself the trouble.
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… How is that hypocritical? Either system forces the people pro either system into the system they don’t prefer. Are you touched?
Only in your delusional mind are you forced to use RDF. Not that I expect you to see through your delusion and/or ignorance.
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