Another upcoming Class Tuning without mentions to Brewmaster

This part in particular.

Apology accepted Morpegom

Sorry, I donā€™t think I understand what you mean. Are you saying that we donā€™t need changes to our utility, and then boost our damage to compensate? Isnā€™t that I didnā€™t wanted to account your answer, I just found your point hard to understand.

No problem.

Thatā€™s why I explained it.

BrM brings no dmg or defense. Relative to other tanks. They need a buff in both areas.

WW Monk I am fine with its utility. It need to bring more dmg.

In short

So, again, your point is that monks need to bring more damage than other classes because their bring no utility?

BrM both.

WW Monk dmg

Saying monk has no utility over and over doesnā€™t make it true.

So tell me what utility do you have. If you and a Frost DK had the same damage output, sell me your position, why should you ever be choosen instead of him? Or over a shaman? Over a mage? Over a druid?

If you donā€™t already know there is no point explaining it. You are talking like you know all there is to know about monks yet have no clue what utility they haveā€¦ especially over a warrior of all classes.

The fact that you have a hidden profile screams troll.

Sorry, this is nothing but funny. Iā€™m telling you that monks have no group utility. And you are telling me they have.

So I ask you: Then what utility we have over other classes?

And then you say to me: Donā€™t you know?

What the hell you talking about? Iā€™m literally saying that we have no utility, so how Iā€™m supposed to know the utility you are talking about? The point you trying to argue with makes no sense at all.

Troll just going to keep trolling. Dude times all 11s on brew with RoP talented and then says that monk has not only has no utility but is worse than warriorsā€¦

So you are telling me that Brewmasters are better than Protection Warriors?

You are telling me, right here and right now, after a mouthful call of troll, that you think the value of Ring of Peace is higher than the value of Rallying Cry/Intervene? That our 50 seconds Leg Sweep is better than the 25 seconds Shockwave? That our 2 minute Diffuse Magic is better than a 19 seconds Spell Reflect?

You are complete sure?

Proving again you are a troll by changing goal posts. You are the one claiming monk has no utility and would never be taken over any other dps or tank.

No one is claiming Monk is better than Warrior in damage or at tanking currently. You are the only one constantly spouting nonsense and purposely spreading bs about monks by claiming it has no utility.

You know d well what you are and what you are doing. You know you are making up trashā€¦ you even made sure your profile can be easily blocked. Troll is a troll.

Then again, friend, tell me what utility we have.

You can easily shut up the mouth of a ā€œtrollā€ by answering my questions: What utility do we have over other classes? You canā€™t. And because you canā€™t, your answer is calling me a troll, but here is s the thing:

I think you are misleading my point. I want Monks to be BETTER. To have reasons to be choosen in this imense DPS list. Iā€™m not here to call monks bad and say they donā€™t have future.

You do understand that monks fell in popularity on keys from 7% in legion to 3% today, donā€™t you? Thatā€™s because we canā€™t compete with Anti-Magic Zone, friendo. We canā€™t compete with Ancestral Guidance. We donā€™t have a Brezz, a Lust, a party-wide damage reduction.

And if we are not on the top of the meters, yes I repeat again, thereā€™s no reason to choose a monk.

Positives this expansion

  1. Iā€™m going to disagree with some people and I actually like building up energy consumption to 240 and doing a flurry of attacks. If I had to change something itā€™d be giving us a bit more control over when it happens but I like it.

  2. I love the visual change to weapons of order. Itā€™s so much better now and cooler.

the only change that needs to be made is pandaren being deleted and put into camps irl.

Couldnā€™t agree more. Give me a free race change to gnomes after that please.

This thread needs more attention. Itā€™s sad this spec wasnā€™t even mentioned in the latest round of tuning changes.

At present, the spec feels more fun to play than it did in DF. However, it needs major defensive buffs (both to mitigation and to sustain) to feel sturdier at higher key levels. Without adjustments and tuning, I think this spec dies even further as the season goes on.