Another round of nerfs for Frost?

  • Frost

    • Frost Strike damage reduced by 6%. Does not apply to PvP.
    • Obliterate damage reduced by 6%. Does not apply to PvP.
    • Icy Death Torrent damage reduced by 10%.
    • Glacial Advance damage reduced by 10%. Does not apply to PvP.

Few weeks back we got.

  • Frost
    • All ability damage reduced by 5%.
    • Glacial Advance damage reduced by 15%.
    • Icy Death Torrent damage reduced by 15%.
    • Frost Strike damage increased by 8%.
    • Obliterate damage increased by 8%.
    • Breath of Sindragosa damage increased by 12%.
    • Shattered Frost now deals 60% of the damage to nearby enemies (was 65%).
    • Enduring Strength now grants 15% Strength (was 20%).
    • Shattering Blade now causes the next Frost Strike when consuming 5 Razorice stacks to be increased by 115% (was 125%).
    • Glacial Advance’s global cooldown is now properly reduced by Haste.
    • Frostsycthe’s global cooldown is now properly reduced by Haste.
    • Cryogenic Chamber now has a 30 second duration.
    • Cryogenic Chamber now resets at the beginning of a raid encounter and Mythic+ dungeon.
    • Cryogenic Chamber now displays the amount of damage event it stored as stacks.
    • Icy Death Torrent now deals reduced damage beyond 5 targets (was 8). The tooltip will be updated to reflect this change at a later date.
    • Pillar of Frost is now displayed on the personal resource display.

So let me get this straight. The “buffs” we got are now even further reduced this next week. Mean while, Arcane and Fury wars receive ZERO balance tuning. Have ya’ll seen arcane or Fury?

But again lets be honest here, we’re in preseason, things die fast as it is, how can this team at Blizz really think a tuning can be evaluated when the season hasn’t started.

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Rip
It was a good week
Cya next xpac

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The nerfs a few weeks back still left us in S tier, they weren’t a problem. FDK was genuinely cracked during beta. We still are on live right now.

What has me concerned, is that Frost’s base numbers are getting hit before Deathbringer. DB is dramatically overpreforming for both Blood and Frost, and I don’t see a universe where it doesn’t get heavily nerfed before the M+ season opens.

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The obliterate part of this nerf is odd to me. Our single target is already behind most other classes. They could have nerfed our aoe potential without hurting us more in single target. I’m also new to DK so maybe I’m missing something.

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i come back to retail because frost dk was finally good again and now they just gonna non stop nerf them back to C tier. if they nerf them one more time after this im just gonna quit again.

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We’re still S tier, but that status is predicated on DB staying the way it is.

It’s way, way too soon to start throwing around ‘C tier’ as a legitimate concern. The way FDK mechanically works right now is incredibly advantageous.

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oh i know we will still be okay for now but if they keep going with it being constantly nerfed from here on out its demoralizing to want to play the game. i know things need to be tuned in new expansions but if it gets to the point where its every time a new tuning post comes out then its gonna get old real quick

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You’re cooked arcane literally got chopped if you read it’s not even going to see end game at least frost will be around

No FDK nerfs also make no sense. No one on the balance team ever plays it that’s pretty obvious.

Yet another Nerf to Glacial Advance even though no one takes it just because of Artic
Assault.

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Get your facts straight.

  • Sunfury
    • Burden of Power can no longer be double dipped by spell queueing.
    • Arcane Phoenix damage dealt reduced by 10% for Arcane.
    • Arcane Soul base duration reduced to 2 seconds (was 3 seconds).

And the irony of crying about your nerfs but wanting to see other classes get nerfed. Stick to your class and how to make it better instead of throwing others under the bus.

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DK discord is saying roughly 2.5% nerf in ST, and 5% in aoe. Not bad at all

Uhhh… yes it did

  • Sunfury

  • Burden of Power can no longer be double dipped by spell queueing.

  • Arcane Phoenix damage dealt reduced by 10% for Arcane.

  • Arcane Soul base duration reduced to 2 seconds (was 3 seconds).

This has literally happened at the start of every expansion. They have ways to test internally and have access to more data now. There will be another big pass after the WFR.

We were top tier consistently in DF…

DB is defo cracked right now. A lot of that power should be transferred into FDK’s base kit if anything.

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GA is good if you plan to do 2H over DW. Before beta it was a net positive at 2+ targets and before nerf it was a net positive at 3+ targets and is really good in M+ packs. Now, it’s probably going to look like 4+ target.

That said, it’s really clear they’re nerfing Arctic Assault and not the ability itself. Something needs to be done about separating the two, Arctic Assault should be a “lesser” version and GA should be buffed to where it was pre-beta.

Both ability GA and Frostscythe needs some love and Deathbringer needs to get the nerfs and power transferred into FDK base kit.

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Anyone not expecting another round of big nerfs before s1 begins is in for a rude awakening.
I will always remember how hard fdk got slapped before SL and the sickening deathstrike nerfs which crippled us. One thing which is confusing me and not consistent with blizzard is most of these nerfs not crossing over to pvp. It normally gets killed in the crossfire. Or they take aim at unholy and kill frost too. Overall though these nerfs haven’t worked out as a huge % overall of AoE and single target. It’ll work itself out again once we get full purples.

Yeah Blizzard is just single handedly deciding for me not to play DK this expac. Which is a damn shame, because pre-patch it felt so fluid and nice as Frost, because I’ve been looking for an excuse to drop Unholy because well it’s not that much fun to micromanage 3 to 5 skills on weird cool downs that don’t line up well resource hyper vigilance only to be 3rd or 5th on the meters because I couldn’t perfectly farm gear drops from M+ because the drops suck, and the vault sucks and itemization was questionable. But hey I farmed the leggo which was a marginal upgrade for DK’s anyway. Just depressing all around. So sick of this nonsense.

Did you honestly think that Frost DK was not gonna get the nerf bat?

Seriously?

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Why would frost get nerfed before fury warrior?

That’s the issue

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Says the Mage on the DK forums, the irony.

When did “Arcane” become “Sunfury”?

Lets take it back to the real discussion shall we? Fury warriors are where on the chopping block?

FDK took like a 30% nerf from all abilities since pre-release, but ‘we’re fine’.

I don’t see it that way as other classes from my own experience are over performing just as much or above.

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Oh I agree. Fury definitely somehow dodged the nerf bat.