I have the bear and its skins and have talked to other druids who have the achieves but still only have the Fel Bear. You can prove me wrong by getting the fel bear and showing off the barber shop with all skins except white.
Dude. Re-read the last thing I said.
Right my bad then thought you were referring to getting the other skins if you get fel bear, just cant get the white one.
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Oh, I was just referring to the other generic artifact bears earlier (like the stony bear, ursoc lookalike, etc). 
Then you are absolutely correct, you can get the brown and tan later as long as you got the base skin in Legion, I did balance of power in BFA solo. I forgot the black skin too but RBGs are a pita so not many including me have them because getting together a RBG team and winning is not fun.
I cant tell if we can or cant lol. Ive looked but wowhead is just way too outdated info half the time.
Like to get some of those upright forms, other than the vomit green, if we can still get them.
I hate long grinds but for those Id actually put in the work. lol
what do you mean ābase skinā ?
I started later legionā¦i hope I didnt miss out entirely on something
The artifact weapons we had in legions could have various looks (skins). Each look had a base (or basic) look, say, a brown colored spikey bear. From there, there were achievements or other ways that you could get a version of that same basic look, so it would still look like that same spikey bear, but now it might be white or green instead of brown.
The mage tower had a version of that fel bear you were talking about that looks the same in shape (like a weird gorilla bear thing), itās just white in color:
Thatās the base look, and then other colors are just variants of that base look. The above is, as far as I know, the only thing that actually went away at the end of Legion. Technically the other colors of that look went away too, for people who didnāt already have that white (base) look. The fel bear version is a new release from when they brought the mage tower back.
Edit - To answer the other question above, there is currently no way to obtain any other version of the above EXCEPT the fel bear version, which is from the re-release of the mage tower.
Edit edit - Side rant - this is one of the reasons that, despite having these and other things that have been removed from the game over time, Iād honestly rather Blizzard just brought it all backā¦ I get tired of telling newer players about all the things they canāt have because they didnāt happen to be playing the game between a sunny Tuesday at 2pm in August and a rainy Friday at 7:30am in October. This game has a gravity well consisting of its own past that pulls new players in and launches them at 2/3 the speed of light out the other side.
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I see.
yeah, I didnt start playing druid enough to know about those forms till Legion was pretty much over. Mained druid thru SLs, for what I played of it, for the most part.
On my barber list only the fel version and my new Aurostor version are showing so maybe that means the others arent there at all to get on my account, I guess.
Can I submit a counter plea to quash these threads?
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Actually I did this on a massively overgeared Arcane Mage. It was possible, but you had to super cheese the encounter. (might have been more like a minute and a half).
Come to remember now that MM hunter was pretty similar, and I was able to bypass a good portion of the mechanics due to a really huge burst window.
Thereās literally been evidence linked that the returned mage towers are literally a joke.
Someone anecdotal things that never happened doesnāt change that fact.
Phosphorus did it as arcane in 36 seconds in 9.2.
You werenāt completing it in under a minute and ignoring all the mechanics.
the timewalking mage tower became easy in dragonflight because the new talent trees were really overpowered and gave every class the ability to use covenant powers, old tier sets and many new abilities that trivialized the mage tower mechanics.
i did the guardian druid mage tower in shadowlands and it was HARDā¦ it took me somewhere around 200 pulls to complete it.
i ignored literally every mechanic in the havoc demon hunter mage tower with full antorus tier near the end of the expansion.
at the start of the encounter, i popped drums, used my potion and meta, i burned first guy down to 10% before he even did one mechanic and went straight to phase 2.
i skipped phase one completely which is where all the mechanics were, phase 2 was just a burn dps race which i easily beat even with no pot, no drums and no cooldowns.
Mt was braindead by the end of legion. Got my lock wep by basically overpowering it.
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9.2 was shadowlands and cov abilities werenāt allowed.
Iām calling BS man
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I donāt mind it if they do. I honestly hardly ever mog most aside from shaman/paladin weapons. The whole fomo thing is just dumb.
As a havoc dh you just zoomed and hit. Havoc with the end of expansion artifacts trivialized that encounter.
You still werenāt completing the challenges as fast as people are now.
Then, ask for NEW class themed items?
It was less this and more about doing it in Argus+ gear. With no scaling factor on the challenge, it became easier to survive a minor mistake here or there.
DPS is still a bit easier with the timewalking variants in most cases (though IMO the Twins felt harder to finish off on every spec compared to when I did them in Legion).
All this being said, Iāve love these weapon appearances to come back. I know one of my friends would absolutely die to have had a chance to access the Marks mage tower model.
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