Another m+ season with one tank insanely overperforming

[Atrazesh-gurubashi]

I agree. Tanks deserve more nerfs.

[Molecular-emerald-dream]

Brewmaster is sick, I don’t even care about tier lists at all.

Tier lists for M+ might as well just cut out every tier but S because they’re only relevant for +12 keys.
All these API trackers start at like 7+ or 12+, they’re not realistic. There aren’t that many people doing keys that high, it’s not like millions of people.

[Boomdoggle-zuljin]

@Akapally-barthilas

Sure BrM can clear 10s if you are good enough, but I can also do it with 3 buttons on my prot warrior with less gear so why bother playing any other tank?

This is their goal in churning the meta. Now all the professionals and wannabes will reroll to a different tank and play extra hours to gear up. People who aren’t so good at that will work harder and have less success. People who aren’t willing to dump their main and start again will be left behind in the dust. Basically lots of extra playtime and maybe they can get marginal players to up and quit, because clearly they don’t want anyone less than esports potential playing this game.

[Oxez-zuljin]

Pretty neat that my 610 prot paladin can do more damage than my 630 bear

I’m telling you Guardian will rise up in 11.1

It’s been 489 days since the last change to Guardian Druid spec tree (the tree we have NOW in 11.0.5 is 100% identical to the one received in 10.1.5, last change was in July 2023, during Aberrus). Surely the 11.1 rework (believe guys) will finally make it fun to play in M+.

[Sôsari-dalaran]

@Molecular-emerald-dream

All these API trackers start at like 7+ or 12+, they’re not realistic. There aren’t that many people doing keys that high, it’s not like millions of people.

Yeah, only 260,000 characters in the US/OCE alone have timed all +7s and up. Totally not many people doing them. 335,000 between timing all +6s and 7s.

760,000 US, OCE, EU, KR, and TW combined and not including all of the Chinese players. I’d say your argument is very wrong.

[Azukí-dalaran]

Trying to turn everything into an esport is how they killed hots and killed the overwatch league lol

blizzard is not good at balancing, just make things fun instead

[Molecular-emerald-dream]

Leveling my Brew and it’s DPS who are getting us killed in these dungeons.

Had a Warlock charging their Felguard into random packs and then I had an Enhance shaman bursting random mobs I hadn’t attacked yet, getting himself auto attacked and killed.

People playing like absolute spastics is a big problem, it’s like they don’t have a single second of patience in their body.

[Vitaminr-stormrage]

@Akapally-barthilas

Now I don’t know what they done with paladin, maybe people finally got past 620 iLVL and scaling started making them super strong, maybe healers were able to finally get past that level and keep them up easier, or maybe some changes have been done, because at the start of the season people could not play paladin, they called it bad.

What’s been done is they received a rework with a lot of buffs, but the reason they are FOTM is they actually do DPS, unlike every other tank in the game. I just had a prot pally averaging 1.2 mil DPS in a key last night. That’s basically double of any other tank right now.

[Skojin-bleeding-hollow]

What?

There’s three strong tanks right now: VDH, Ppal, War. Brew needs big help and blood dk design is tricky to fix for M+. Bears are meh.

But it’s not a 1 tank meta. They’re all perfectly fine up to +12. My DK, the “worst” M+ tank, has hit a gear level where I now feel overpowered for this content.

[Skojin-bleeding-hollow]

Very pug friendly. You get an extra 1/3 of a dps and lots of free silences.

I was surprised to see all those MDI teams running VDH yesterday.

[Akston-area-52]

the general population always has extreme knee jerk reactions to “meta” and such.

[Akapally-barthilas]

@Boomdoggle-zuljin

Now all the professionals and wannabes will reroll to a different tank and play extra hours to gear up.

I rerolled because BrM is garbage and at least 4 other tanks are just far better, it took me 2 days to get to 609 iLVL from fresh level 80. They really need to balance healers and tanks more than anything given their importance and how there are 28 DPS specs, but only 6 tanks and 5 healers.

@Vitaminr-stormrage

I just had a prot pally averaging 1.2 mil DPS in a key last night.

It’s also how their defences work, a prot paladin using avengers and divine shield get a larger defensive buff the more enemies that get hit by it, so if you can play with a geared healer and DPS who know how to interrupt and CC you can pull bigger and survive the initial pulls better.

The DPS is just a byproduct of surviving better, but yeh it helps a lot.

[Lemonshark-dalaran]

@Almostworks-aegwynn

Buff underperforming tanks PROPERLY for once and there you go

they literally did this and we now have a new meta.

[Angrydogs-area-52]

Lol the entire premise of the OP is ridiculous. We saw 3 different tanks in the MDI.

I can’t recall seeing three, EVER.

Does brew and bdk need help? Sure. But the balance in general is very good. Brew is the largest outlier. Id expect a rework soon.

[Remi-dalaran (Remi)]

Paladins are destroying in keys. Well, at least 10’s. Been starting to run into some that carry the group really hard with +2mil dmg overall.

I might level one. Last I remembered they are easy to play.

$10 they get nerfed in a week or two.

[Argorwal-ysera (Argorwal)]

@Vitaminr-stormrage

@Akapally-barthilas

Now I don’t know what they done with paladin, maybe people finally got past 620 iLVL and scaling started making them super strong, maybe healers were able to finally get past that level and keep them up easier, or maybe some changes have been done, because at the start of the season people could not play paladin, they called it bad.

What’s been done is they received a rework with a lot of buffs, but the reason they are FOTM is they actually do DPS, unlike every other tank in the game. I just had a prot pally averaging 1.2 mil DPS in a key last night. That’s basically double of any other tank right now.

Same reason disc has taken over as meta. They do like double the dps of any other healer.

[Sway-azjolnerub]

Why don’t blood dks ever complain? Every thread I see people complaining about brm yet blood is by far the least represented at the top, it’s not close. Are all blood dk players just super chill, or do they just not exist?

[Uncleruckus-darkspear]

@Almostworks-aegwynn

Buff underperforming tanks

I agree, buff warrior.

[Argorwal-ysera (Argorwal)]

@Sway-azjolnerub

Why don’t blood dks ever complain? Every thread I see people complaining about brm yet blood is by far the least represented at the top, it’s not close. Are all blood dk players just super chill, or do they just not exist?

They all fotm rerolled to frost DK.

For fun go on raiderio and compare frost DK rep from right now vs DF season 3.

[Callsaul-mankrik]

Brewmaster monk is current top OP and prob needs a nerf too.