Another LFD rant, Blizz you gotta wake up

[Beva-westfall]

@Aurumai-whitemane

@Beva-westfall

What Retail is at the moment is the entire reason I stopped playing 2 xpacs ago so I don’t see how just because it has LFD that it’s welcoming? That seems like you’re desperately grasping at straws there

I’m pointing out that if dungeon finder is absolutely necessary for someone to enjoy the game, it’s not a stretch to assume that the content itself is of secondary importance to them. Especially since dungeon finder would be absent for at least two thirds of the content if we’re to expect a faithful recreation of the experience (which was the whole point of Classic to begin with).

@Beva-westfall

Oh but it’s okay if other players experiences get tarnished by the removal of a QoL feature that was in WotLK regardless of when it came out in that xpac just because you don’t want to play server eras meant for those players such as Classic Era servers or SoM? So they have to suffer while you get the best of both worlds? Sounds a bit hypocritical there to me

I wouldn’t complain if they implemented dungeon finder when ICC releases. The only thing I can expect of Blizzard is to make good on their claims of wanting to offer an experience that’s authentic to the original article.

That being said, I’ve pointed out that dungeon finder in Wrath Classic was only ever a ‘maybe’ at best. They certainly could implement it during the ICC phase, but at the end of the day, that doesn’t seem like a good decision for the Classic “brand”.

I hope they never implement dungeon finder in any Classic era (including Cataclysm and beyond) unless it’s on a special ‘Retail-like’ realm sometime down the line. It’s no secret that people generally view the end of Wrath as being the beginning of WoW’s descent into what we now call Retail. Ever since Vanilla Classic was announced, I figured that this could probably only go one of two ways (if they weren’t straight up lying about authenticity):

1. They keep rereleasing all of WoW’s content through the years and eventually make all of it playable again. The content will have roughly the exact same features and systems as the expansion of the game they’re based on.
   OR
2. They release roughly ‘authentic’ recreations of all the content from Vanilla to Wrath and then they begin to “correct the wrongs” that led WoW down the path to Retail by releasing post-Wrath content, but removing the destructive influence that had seeped in once Blizzard merged with Activision.

Classic exists because a lot of people (enough that Activision Blizzard couldn’t ignore the potential profits) dislike Retail and wished to experience older versions of the game. If the WoW team keeps all of the content exactly as it was, then a lot of the interest in Classic will likely taper off as the expansions come out. After all, the further into WoW’s eras we go, the more and more it becomes the Retail we know today. From a business standpoint, it doesn’t seem to make much sense to just redistribute the Retail playerbase across multiple versions of the game instead of keeping them entirely separate.

The fact that you think a Cata classic would happen is hysterical because Classic realms were realistically always going to WotLK and everyone knows that it wont survive a Cata Classic with sub loss after WotLK, also it’s no secret that it was Cata with LFR that started the descent into what Retail is today by being the guild killer, not WotLK with LFD lmfao and yes I played WotLK back at launch and through its entirety. In fact the whole argument about LFD killing the community is bull frankly because the community died way back near the end of Classic when Boosts first starting to appear, or how about when they did HvH BGs and completely killed the alliance PvP community with the small exception of a few megaserver pvp servers along with taking away our communities pre-made groups all because people are min-maxing in a way that was never in Vanilla or TB originally, also Classic exists for EVERYONE not just a certain player group, because like I said before I quit in legion and came back for Classic, I was actually #nochanges for both wow classic and tbc classic, and once again I’m #nochanges because it’s not fair to the Wrath players who wanted it, it’s not fair to the people who wanted to see what Wrath is like with it, and it’s also not fair that the players like us got our 2 xpacs and now we’re kind of stealing the xpac that others (myself included) have waited through 4 years of Classic just to get ripped off months before, so as you keep telling people that if they don’t like it to go play Retail, well since you don’t like LFD why don’t you go play Classic era servers or SoM servers? Those are the servers meant for people who still want that “community” because from where I sit, using an addon called LFG bulletin board, watching boosters spam chat faster then you can read, the fact no one levels 15-60 unless it’s by boosting this meaning literally no level dungeon groups are formed ever, when I do go into a dungeon there is zero communication even when I try often to talk to my group (I’m a tank/healer that doesn’t charge for dungeons because I enjoy 5 man content the most) while being on an alliance server with around a 5k pop last I looked and I can tell you with an absolute certainty that there is nothing of this “community” left, Perhaps there is on the Megaservers but as I’m on a PvE realm and a vast majority of megaservers are on PvP realms I probably won’t see it again since I can’t xfer to a pvp realm from a normal one. Oh man and through this ranting I didn’t even remember to mention GDKPs and how they’ve screwed up this “community” you all seem so desperate to defend because there are almost absolutely zero alt runs going on, people just buy the alt gear now. Also from a business standpoint it doesn’t make sense to alienate anyone who would’ve came back for WotLK that wasn’t subbed for Classic or TBC that won’t be coming back now because of no LFD thus increasing subs and profits compared this “redistribution of retail playerbase” that you speak of, because I for one along with many others haven’t been a Retail player in years, and myself and others who came to Classic specifically for WoTLK classic and patentently waited for OUR turn are now getting screwed over when you’ve already had your turn in Classic Era Servers, then again in TBC Classic Servers, then yet AGAIN on SoM servers, so other players can’t have a turn in getting what they want because it “kills” your imaginary made up community that hasn’t been around since the start of p2 in TBC