Please let evokers play in visage. Like swap to dracthyr form for wing buffet, tail swipe, deep breath, fire breath, verdant embrace, rescue, and during hover windows. Just about every other spell in the dracthye toolset could be used on a wingless rig.
Disintegrate could use arcane missiles animation, just off of the hand rather than mouth.
Pyre/upheavel could use shadow crash’s cast anomation.
Eternity surge could use chaos bolt’s animation
All other spells are already usable in a visage form, unless I’m forgetting any. Just pull the same thing that DHs get with eyebeam via the dracthyr form, and just auto-shift back off of gcd after the spell ends. Even just removing shifting to and out of visage from GCD would do a huge number to make this better.
Off of the main topic of this thread, it would be amazing if dracthyr got more armor/jewelry colorations at least to make transmog feel more rewarding. As well as some sort of hide tabard option outside of visage.
Absolutely love the playstyle and feel of this class, it just feels unfortunate and unfair that you cannot play the game as your “chosen identity” outside of purely social situations.
The way I see it right now, Dracthyr is too closely tied to Evoker at this point that any attempt to humanize it would kind of diminish the race identity in general which in turn diminishes the class identity.
Dracthyr Evoker would just be ‘Evoker’ then while Dracthyr is just an tagalong and more of an undermining trait than what the lore is supposed to represent. It’s why I’m hoping for more transmog and expanded class additions first before anything else.
Besides, DH is still race-locked to two elves and no one gets in a tizzy about it, especially Demon form. It’s just Evokers with this weird stigma from other people being angry about it. It’s so weird.
I sign the petition for this thread. Please, for the love of Elune, or the old gods, or whatever, let us have this as a glyph if we freaking want it so badly.
The lore is more along the lines of evokers being the ‘elite of the elite’ of dracthyr; not that all dracthyr are evokers. A very tiny minority of them are evokers. That aside, any sort of mention of class/race lore identity went out of the window long ago. Demon hunters are the only argument against it, but with Man’ari appearing as new customizations to a race, warlocks as draenei, priests as orcs when they are lorewise entirely incapable of communing with the light. It doesn’t quite work as well as a reason for them not to. The best bet before expanded transmog would be either new classes for Dracthyr, or the visage in combat thing. The biggest issue with being stuck in Dracthyr form during combat is how mediocre they’ve been designed. You cannot look like a big powerful dragon, more like a bipedal gecko. A lot of the spells for two of the specs don’t even make use of the whole ‘dragons breath’ sort of fantasy, the character is casting with their hands. Devastation has disintegrate, but otherwise there are two to three breath spells per spec that actually fit the whole ‘dragon’ description.
I’m also unsure if you’ve not noticed people pretty consistently asking for more DH races. It’s been a thing people want, but luckily the two races DHs can be right now are some of the most popular in the game.
If demon hunter was, for whatever reason, locked behind races like Mechagnomes and Tauren, there would be a similar sentiment to the one with evokers.
It’s long overdue. They should’ve experimented with it more before the class came out. They made the most customizable humanoid character model usable only outside of combat. It’s weird.
If only people realized that well-organized, centralized discussions around these things with a lot of posts are way more effective and likely for blizz to see.
Each one of you that feels like you have some new and fresh take on this topic and need the dopamine hit of someone commenting on your own thread is actually diluting the conversation around it.
I don’t want this, but I have no problem with the people that wanting it getting the option–you all need to stop entertaining some weird need to start your own thread and coordinate one thread that has all of the discussion.
Their job is not to blindly ‘reinforce’ anything–it’s to be a go-between from developers to players. Just because there are vocal minorities that have an outwardly strong opinion on something doesn’t mean it necessarily represents evokers as a whole (not saying that’s the case here, but it’s hard to tell what the consensus is when every evoker Andy takes it upon themselves to make infinite redundant posts).
They also are players of the class and entitled to convey their own opinions; not just parroting what there are 45321509651 threads on the forums about. They have every right to express their own views, whether or not their job is to communicate trends to the devs.
I’d much rather see collectable, customizable visage options similar to how dragonriding works (fyrakk, sark/void, etc) than permanent visage that doesn’t actually make sense for the class/race.
While I support everyone that wants to play human mage but dragon, I’d first love to let us pick our visage race, like druids pick their forms in the barber shop.
Guess they could make a glyph to let you use Visage form permanently and add more visages to the barber shop.
My evoker uses the anniversary murloc wand to play as murloc evoker and the animations are just fine, both with disintegrate aswell as deep breath (altrough the murloc does the falling animation during deep breath)
Making 5 identical threads weekly instead of just keeping a single one active its not the way to get noticed by the devs and get what you want, but it is quite an effective way to cause a post purge by them and probably banned for spamming, just to let you know
I agree completely, I made a thread on Nov 23 last year about Soar and Hover aswell as Visage Forms, managed to keep it going for a while but after being the sole person to reply in it I couldnt bump it anymore.
It’s not really that weird — if Demon Hunters were permanently stuck in their Metamorphosis during combat, unable to see any of their gear for the majority of their gameplay, they’d be complaining too.
Mixture of people who want to play “pretty” races and furry haters stuck in 2006.
All Dracthyr are able to use at least one flights abilities however only a few could master using all 5 flights powers who were given the title Evoker, also if you paid attention to the Dracthyr story it’s easy to piece together any Dracthyr that couldn’t use the powers effectively either died during training or were shipped off to Aberrus never to return.
I always have to wonder what people are doing during combat …
like what is so important watching your own character that this is still an issue?
Afaik during combat you watch around the character most of the time. like what’s on the ground, what direction the boss moves/looks.
how is it in anyway relevant how the character looks during those times?
like out of combat you can already instantly switch back to visage.
The character might not be the center of attention during those times, but some people feel that its important to have aesthetically pleasing character even in combat. You look at your character here and there. It doesn’t disappear. You can also enjoy your character in non-dire combat situations like WQs, leveling and testing out training dummies. Raids aren’t the only content in this game.
Imagine this; everytime you enter combat, your character turns into a blob of grey matter like someone could draw it on Paint. After a while it would get tiresome even though you could ignore it 85% of the time. Even if you could ignore it fully, it still takes away from the experience and doesn’t add anything.
Some people just want to invest their time in their characters to look good and what is a “good looking” character is subjective. Only downside with evoker is that dracthyr is a beast race, so many people can’t resonate with it like they can do with elven characters. With the option being there, aka visage, it amplifies the frustration of “being so close and still so far away”.
During WQ i watch the world for targets or interactable objects,
same during leveling.
For testing out skills/rotation on training dummies I’ll watch skills rather than my character.
IDK what to tell you. During any type of combat be it raid, dungeons or overworld the Eyes should never be on the character.
Your telling me that you can’t already see everything on your screen when your in combat? How bad is your tunnel vision that you can’t see both your surroundings and your character. If you can’t see your character, than that’s an ocular issue. Also, the dracthyr form is the largest in the game and actually makes it harder to see your enemy when you’re in really tight corners because it blocks your field of vision. Anyone who’s pvped with evokers in Warsong Gulch knows how much the tunnels and small spaces can be a pain. Those wings are in the way. There is zero reason to be against giving people the esthetic choice they want. If you enjoy being in dragon form, then good for you. This thread isn’t for you.
