sorry ya you are kinda right. I was using too simple of words. He was crying while holding back rage. This goes beyond just the cinematic. If I were to watch just the cinematic without knowing who he was at all, I guess it could be looked at differently.
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He spent 6+ years having a pity party instead of getting over it and doing his duty. Either man him up or kill him but Im tired of dealing with his weakness he’s not compelling or interesting just annoying.
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Well most writing comes down to the basic types of hero.
The 7 types of heroes in writing:
- Epic Hero.
- Classical hero.
- Everyman hero.
- tragic hero.
- Byronic Hero.
- Reluctant Hero ----> Anduin?
- Anti Hero
Anduin was originally portrayed as a teenager just starting to realize the responsibilities
of adulthood and his role in the kingdom. So perhaps he’s not a fully cooked hero yet?
Who looks at Dances with Wolves as a “hero”?!? That movie came out in 1990, the same year as GOODFELLAS, Die Hard 2…Rocky 5…The Godfather 3…Total Recall…and you use DANCES WITH WOLVES as proof of times changing? lol, stop…actually dont, you just prove even more what bad writing is like.
Worse yet, you used JOHN WAYNE against a MOVIE instead of Costner?
Wait wait, lets play this game. Lets go 5 years after the great heroic movie of Dances With Wolves came out. 1995. Braveheart, Seven, Heat, Usual Suspects, Casino, Waterworld(ooh Costner!), Die Hard 4, Golden Eye, Batman Forever…should I keep going and do 2000? Gladiator, American Psycho, Gone in 60 seconds, X-Men, Unbreakable, The Patriot lol…I can keep going and do the next 10 years, 15…wait. How about 2020! The Gentlemen, Tenet, 1917, Extraction, Call of the Wild, Bad Boys for Life, Unhinged…
So even NEW movies are not what you claimed. Attempt to defend piss poor writing is a total fail.
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They’re so Alpha IRL that it wraps around to whining about male characters in a video game having feelings.
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I was just pointing out that different times (Eras) make for different social viewpoints. The society a film is made in at a particular era, reflects what that society thinks and regards as socially acceptable. Specially with books, movies, and games. Which are viewed by a large portion of the society.
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OP’s bait game is strong
So, you are disappointed with his character because you can’t see yourself oiling up his muscles?
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If you were more open about feeling and expressing your emotions like Anduin, a tiny little comment on some internet forums for a video game wouldn’t upset you this much.
That sounds like a good leader to me.
Maybe, but I think it’s a compelling and - if done right - worthwhile storyline to cut Anduin’s fatherly leader out from under him before he’s had the chance to grow in those ways.
Not only does it force him to adapt far too early (which comes with its own set of problems) but it causes him to grow in a more individualized way and not just become “Varian 2.0 but with The Light”.
Much more storytelling potential this way.
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I needed a word of the day, and this works smashingly.
If I can find a way to use it in 3 sentences, it’s mine!
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I understand what the OP is talking about. This is his opinion. He reflects (generally speaking) the same opinion that most of the human race regards as valid.
Wow revolves around violence murder and genocide. Total War! In such societies as Wow depicts. Manliness: the Look of power and determination and savagery is very much valued.
If a leader looks week. That leader will be killed and replaced with one that looks like Conan the Barbarian. That’s just the reality of social constructs. We in our modern societies want to believe that people should display their emotions and be treated humanly. But in the world we live in, even in our modern world. Just look at the news these days. People still want powerful leaders (Who look powerful) to defend them. It’s just the reality.
Even the female heroes Look like powerful fighters. People who lead because they have no qualms about butchering the enemy.
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Yeah because rage and slaughter are totally healthy ways to deal with trauma 
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That is exactly the premise behind World of WARCRAFT the game.
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Nice opinion, which youtuber or twitch streamer gave it to you?
Really? You got the original creators confirmation on that? That’s not at all what I got from the underlying theme of the games story.
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Huh? Did you watch the cinematic?
Anduin looks like he’s seen/been thru some 
- he looked pretty rough/gritty in the intro video
If he was beta/soyish before, definitely seems like he’s growing out of such behaviors now (at first glance anyways)
As for the crying it’s possible he’s just venting after all the he went thru in Shadowlands, we have to remember his body basically got “taken over” by the Jailer so that’s gonna leave some lingering trauma for sure
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Breakfast at Tiffany’s, 1961. At the height of John Wayne’s stardom…I could list 100s of films during the 25 years of John Waynes career that were about men doing mundane things.
You are not even remotely close to proving that stories evolved in any way that defends a crybaby leader being the focus in WoW that makes it appear to be natural evolution.
Once again, I previously listed 2020s top films, none of them with a crybaby.
You are the type that would defend a little baby Ren, as being a modern villain that fits modern society even though outside of garbage Disney films, villains are still actually evil, and not just some overgrown moron throwing a tantrum that just needs a good slap in the face.
the problem with this discussion is that type 1 (epic hero) is the only version most people in this forum will recognize. their definition of hero requires anger, violence, bloodshed, revenge, etc. if he’s not seven feet tall, covered in muscles, and swinging a sword that’s on fire, he can’t be a hero.
hey, case in point!
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I mean. As long as your list is just as long. You gave one. So I will.
The Wheel of Time Book series has multiple strong female leads.