Which would make it the second time the Horde was gained more than it lost in a war. Small wonder they keep picking fights with the alliance, they get rewarded with everything they conquered every time.
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Except give the refugees a place to stay. And make the war end prematurely.
Oh yeah and. You do know the Alliance WENT TO WAR because of what happened in Teldrassil right? If they where those uncaring a holes you say they are they wouldn t give a crap about it. But instead they provide refuge to the survivors and went to full war against the Horde.
Cause we kinda have an old god loose in the world? Sylvanas is out of the picture and fighting two wars at the same time is suicidal? But yeah let s let the entire world die and become a corrupt wasteland just because Tyrande is pissy.
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This statement on Shandris is part of the problem. She was a relatively blank slate that they could have forged into an amazing character for Kaldorei fans to rally behind in the wake of being the punching bag once again but this time amped to 15.
Instead they made her into a human loving race traitor.
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Yes, he is a big one but not only throws away his “subjects” he also attacks others and then he is white-washed of his incompetence. Besides of being a bad character, he is anti-sue(useless person that always screw things but is praised and loved by everyone saying he is the best one)
The alliance saved the Night Elves in one of the Cata stories (Not in game). Garrosh was about to kill Tyrande and the entire Night Elf army before Varian and his army showed up, and he even personally beat Garrosh up.
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Yes we’re all aware of Wolfheart and how it was absolute fanfic tier trash.
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Human Paladin says “Hush, Tyrande”, NE players ignore him and continue raging unabated.
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We currently hold those territories btw. If there is going to be a changing hands of the NE territories like Ashenvale it will be going the OTHER WAY. Also, seems the only way the Forsaken are getting ANY of their territories back is at the expense of their ENTIRE racial fantasy. So … yah, know. NE, NE victim stuff!
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You’ve asserted a few times that the Forsaken have lost all their zones, but I’m not aware of any lore on that. At best we’ve seen a few war table missions about fighting in Silverpine and Hillsbrad, but if those are evidence that the Alliance has taken both zones, then the Horde has taken places like Hyjal.
The only zone that seems to have changed hands for sure was Ashenvale, though apparently fighting continued there, and Darkshore, where I think it is implied that the Alliance won. And I think Tyrande’s dialogue implies that the Night Elves have all their land back.
At the end of this, my assumption is that the status quo remains largely unchanged, as I predicted back at the start of all this. Do you have evidence otherwise?
With the Forsaken leadership in absolute shambles there is little hope for the Forsaken to really hold those territories (even if they hold them in some sort of minor way).
On top of this, their infrastructure was absolutely decimated during the invasion of Lordaeron … and unlike the NEs they can’t really fight without infrastructure (the Forsaken Power Fantasy PALES in comparison to the NEs on a conceptual level). The status quo remaining unchanged in northern EK can only really be justified through the absolute, unmitigated destruction of the Forsaken Racial Fantasy (Calia Menethil).
Didn’t they cut that victory speech? Or at least not use it yet. Darkshore is still in limbo.
#notmyking
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Silithus, either there or en route to there. They explained that one. That’s not an unknown.
So head canon then.
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I’m talking about the way she is directing her resources towards the pursuit of Sylvanas. That in itself doesn’t prove the Night Elves have all their land back, but it suggests it, and I suspect that is what we will see in game.
As for Droite’s argument, the fact is that Blizzard goes out of their way to maintain faction parity. It is possible that the Forsaken lost territory other than their starting zone, but if so then so will the Night Elves. But I think it is more likely that we will just see status quo.
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Everyone needs help. That is the entire point of the Alliance. I’d also point out the night elves saves the Worgens ones but I dont see people complaining about that. Or how Tyrande and Malfurion literally saved the entire world from the Emerald Nightmare in Malfurion book.
Probably because they remembered their rule nr. 1: never give a small victory to night elves.
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Or they had something else planned for Tyrande.
Basically… not winning
Or you know, spend an entire expac with/end up getting a patch dedicated to her and the night elves. Besides, as a comparison its not like Jaina suddenly got an end to her journey just because MoP ended.