Out of curiosity, please point me to a source where Blizzard says sharding will not exist in current expansion content for RP realms. I'm not saying it doesn't exist, I'm saying I want to see it and make a determination for myself.
Apparently it's a waste of my time to type out explanations to you, so I recommend that you google it yourself.
Do you mean the patch in 8/2017 where they disabled sharding everywhere except legion zones on RP servers? As in, shard only in current expansion zones?
As in you dont know how to read, and that Blizzard never promised current content shardless RP zones, and expressly said the opposite?
https://eu.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/17616662283
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I would like to add my experience to this as I think it's important for people that played the game back in Vanilla to get the point of why Sharding isn't a good idea.
I mean first and foremost that video immediately shows that Sharding removes the MASSIVE MULTIPLAYER aspect of an MMO. This is a living, breathing world.
When Blizzard first released Oceanic Servers, myself, brother, his/my friends all rolled on Frostmourne. Being Australian this was obviously a big deal.
The server was packed, well over an hr to que up, when finally logging in, my God, the amount of people in the starting zones, the server crashed a few times then finally went down for good over night.
What I would give to relive that experience. It's something that you need to just try yourself. You are entering this massive world with all of these people. We didn't care about finishing quests, or rushing to the finish line, we were immersed and were experiencing something great. The thing that gets me and even with Blizzard, is that these crowded areas do no last for a long time. It only lasted 1 maybe 2 days? I'm talking extreme server crash situations with Blizzard now surely has the experience/technology to handle this far better than way back when.
The point is, this is an exaggeration on their part, just listen to the community, if they want the true Classic experience like Ian said, than this isn't a major problem. I don't trust Blizzard when they say "only for the short term" rubbish. They will find other reasons/excuses to leave this is in for good. Keep it out.
And then people like this telling others they need to try not being able to play the game for themselves. We're all doing that right now.
I'm not sure on what you're trying to say here?
<span class="truncated">...</span>You're missing the point. Everyone should feel welcome. The more the merrier. The problem is when Current WoW players try to change Classic to something it wasn't, and radically alter its fundamental principles. And sharding does just that.
You're right, a few weeks of sharding for a smooth launch will fundamentally alter 'principles'. That's a rational argument.
It certainly wont smooth out thousands of people jumping into the game at the same time in the same spot. Certainly wont help people have an enjoyable first day in the game. It certainly violates a 'principle' of WoW to have overpopulation ruin a game night. WoW had a bad launch and this was part of the problem. Note... problem... not feature.
But we don't WANT to smooth out thousands of ppl jumping into the game in the same spot. We want it to be like it was on release... Like an "authentic vanilla experience". Like they said they were making. And running into ppl over and over again and recognizing that is how individuals make friends. Just like in real life.
Also, I was on Dragonmaw, our server was at least moderate population and rarely went down. On release it had a high thousand queue which took about 2.5hrs to get in. Went away in about a week and a half.
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Apparently it's a waste of my time to type out explanations to you, so I recommend that you google it yourself.
Do you mean the patch in 8/2017 where they disabled sharding everywhere except legion zones? As in, shard only in current expansion zones?
As in you dont know how to read, and that Blizzard never promised current content shardless zones?
Bunch of misinformed, tantrum throwing children!
I think it's impressive how you somehow manage to describe yourself, yet thinking you're describing me.
What if they just added a checkbox when you log on. Are you planning on playing long term or just checking it out? Theyâll shard you with other people like you. Youâll see your friends, you just wonât see all the tourists. Sounds like a win-win.
All of this is moot anyways, as sharding will NOT be sticking around long and only apply to some zones.
Honest question. What makes you believe them this time ? What makes this different then the other times they said one thing and did another ?
If they did turn it off as promised it would be a first.
I think RP realms in retail have just as great a need for sense of community.
Sharding is supposed to be turned off. But it's not. It's on and had destroyed a few RP events. Then Blizzard says they will turn it off. But they don't and leave it on.
Please see my above post and this link:
https://eu.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/17616662283Sharpless RP servers were never promised yet you insist you cant trust Blizzard and they lied to you. Frankly, this rage alongside this ignorance is too much to take.
I dont why Blizzard bothers trying to do things for you people.
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Do you mean the patch in 8/2017 where they disabled sharding everywhere except legion zones? As in, shard only in current expansion zones?
As in you dont know how to read, and that Blizzard never promised current content shardless zones?
Bunch of misinformed, tantrum throwing children!
I think it's impressive how you somehow manage to describe yourself, yet thinking you're describing me.
No what's amazing how you just got owned but are going to ignore it and resort to name calling. Check the reply you quoted.. theres a link now :D
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I think it's impressive how you somehow manage to describe yourself, yet thinking you're describing me.
No what's amazing how you just got owned but are going to ignore it and resort to name calling. Check the reply you quoted.. theres a link now :D
Are you aware that old content on RP servers has sharding and CRZ currently?
(PS - I resorted to name calling? Certainly not! What kind of rake would call someone a name on a forum, particularly when that person had not first insulted them?)
Do you mean the patch in 8/2017 where they disabled sharding everywhere except legion zones on RP servers? As in, shard only in current expansion zones?
As in you dont know how to read, and that Blizzard never promised current content shardless RP zones, and expressly said the opposite?
https://eu.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/17616662283
Goldshire..July 2018..sharding was enabled.
i bolded a very important sentence.
https://twitter.com/warcraftdevs/status/1022566187266232320?lang=en
By default, sharding is always disabled on RP realms, except where needed for server stability.
When events drive large numbers of players to specific areas, we shard them as needed. Sharding has once again been disabled, but we expect it will be needed for launch events soon.
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It's pretty easy for both sides to be "100% certain" its needed or not needed, but I'll be laughing my !@#$ off if they remove sharding as a potential tool and then come launch, all of you drama queens are lighting the forums up because you can't "tag boars", "can't complete the quest (because you ALL seem to have forgotten that some vital chain quests while leveling have world-clickable drops with an ungodly long respawn timer within the first 6 levels in most, if not all, starting zones, x 100s of new players)", can't log in because of massive queues and/or server crashes... just cuz you wanted to be petulant and go with obvious design flaws.
I started on day one on several private servers with ten thousand other people. I had a blast.
You don't know what you're talking about.
Holy !@#$. So you mean this whole time the tin foil hatters who have been saying âblizzard promised no sharding beforeâ were actually making THE WHOLE THING UP!? Hahaha well JFC donât i feel stupid for not researching that.
Wow they just added yet another layer to their stupidity and destroyed the one foundation of their argument they were leaning on. Which was a lie. Hahahahahahahahhaha
NO Sharding. Not day one, not one second, not ever. We don't want it. We asked for Vanilla, Ion said "we know vanilla means vanilla." STICK to what the target audience asked for. The plain old game and nothing gameplay breaking added to it.
short and to the point video
Again, this video is a staged video where they got people in the zone to converge on one spot. People on one shard invited people from other shards into groups. It's not one shard having 200 people and another having a couple naturally.
This wont be anyone's experience with sharding. This forum is just an echo room.
You absolute dunce. its tuesday night and a bunch of guilds are heading toward blackrock mountain - pure happenstance. oh a city raid is happening, who do all these people think they are converging into one spot like that? Lowbie ganking in hillsbrad leads to calls to the server and a small war breaks out - that's just staged to be frank. Competing groups are out farming devilsaurs or in Tyr's Hand - never happened. Opening the AQ gates - a myth. These totally nonorganic events are nothing to worry about and will never actually happen I'm sure.
The reason this "staged" event happened is because the players created some content for themselves. Current wow is a big keep your hands and feet inside the ride at all times. Vanilla was not.
Sharding will ensure I don't play.
And nothing of value was lost.
We don't want it.
Yes we do.
In starting zones at launch.
Do you mean the patch in 8/2017 where they disabled sharding everywhere except legion zones on RP servers? As in, shard only in current expansion zones?
As in you dont know how to read, and that Blizzard never promised current content shardless RP zones, and expressly said the opposite?
https://eu.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/17616662283
Goldshire..July 2018..sharding was enabled.
i bolded a very important sentence.
https://twitter.com/warcraftdevs/status/1022566187266232320?lang=en
By default, sharding is always disabled on RP realms, except where needed for server stability. When events drive large numbers of players to specific areas, we shard them as needed. Sharding has once again been disabled, but we expect it will be needed for launch events soon.
So Blizzard had to enable them again in a limited fashion to
maintain server stability during special events and you are still whining about it?
Also from their statement in 2017:
"In general, however, our goal is to follow the general rule of thumb that RP realms do not shard, except in current-expansion zones, or when temporarily necessary to support gameplay"
And you know, or should know, that that sharding mentioned in what you bolded and the 'to support gameplay' clause i quoted only applies to times when there are game-driven events in an area, like new quests or launches. That temporary game-driven sharding might adversely effect RP plans occurring in that space at the same time. Nothing to done about that.
Again, you are completely misinformed. Next?
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Goldshire..July 2018..sharding was enabled.
i bolded a very important sentence.
https://twitter.com/warcraftdevs/status/1022566187266232320?lang=en
By default, sharding is always disabled on RP realms, except where needed for server stability. When events drive large numbers of players to specific areas, we shard them as needed. Sharding has once again been disabled, but we expect it will be needed for launch events soon.
So Blizzard had to enable them again in a limited fashion to maintain server stability during special events and you are still whining about it?
Also from their statement in 2017:
"In general, however, our goal is to follow the general rule of thumb that RP realms do not shard, except in current-expansion zones, or when temporarily necessary to support gameplay"
And you know, or should know, that that sharding mentioned in what you bolded and the 'to support gameplay' clause i quoted only applies to times when there are game-driven events in an area, like new quests or launches. That temporary game-driven sharding might adversely effect RP plans occurring in that space at the same time. Nothing to done about that.
Again, you are completely misinformed. Next?
Itâs almost like... they did exactly what they said they were going to. Holy !@#$
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No what's amazing how you just got owned but are going to ignore it and resort to name calling. Check the reply you quoted.. theres a link now :D
Are you aware that old content on RP servers has sharding and CRZ currently?
(PS - I resorted to name calling? Certainly not! What kind of rake would call someone a name on a forum, particularly when that person had not first insulted them?)
It's all good, I'm just saying the reply had nothing substantive, just name calling. Weak.
Please direct me to a patch not that says they re-enabled sharding in old zones, in general. There have been special events that have made sharding necessary, but everything I have seen has indicated it's only on during game-driven population spikes, like new content in a zone and launches.