https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lx9cSwgsbKQ&feature=youtu.be
Why? Because all the people in the zone were intentionally grouped into the same shard to make it look like some random people were left out?
You do realize that without sharding all those people would have spawned in crossroads and been fighting over the same mobs, making things take forever? You realize it's a demo starting off thousands of players starting in exactly the same spot?
Having played the demo, I'm happy with population. I ran into people nonstop, formed groups to kill quillboars, etc. All of this is moot anyways, as sharding will NOT be sticking around long and only apply to some zones.
You folks need to think critically before hopping in the band wagon of irrationality.
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Ion said weeks, not days and not hours.
Doesn't change the point.
Those against sharding say to those that like it to wait until the pack thins out.
We say the same thing to them... Wait until they turn sharding off.
That is just it, they won't.
All of this is moot anyways, as sharding will NOT be sticking around long and only apply to some zones.
Honest question. What makes you believe them this time ? What makes this different then the other times they said one thing and did another ?
If they did turn it off as promised it would be a first.
I think RP realms in retail have just as great a need for sense of community.
Sharding is supposed to be turned off. But it's not. It's on and had destroyed a few RP events. Then Blizzard says they will turn it off. But they don't and leave it on.
Yeah you know what, I WANT the server to crash if too many people are in the one place. I WANT that experience of knowing how much the community came together for something. Sharding is never good. Stop with the love affair with GW2 systems.
NO TO SHARDING.
NO EXCEPTIONS.
*waves picket sign furiously at blizzard*
All of this is moot anyways, as sharding will NOT be sticking around long and only apply to some zones.
Honest question. What makes you believe them this time ? What makes this different then the other times they said one thing and did another ?
If they did turn it off as promised it would be a first.
I think RP realms in retail have just as great a need for sense of community.
Sharding is supposed to be turned off. But it's not. It's on and had destroyed a few RP events. Then Blizzard says they will turn it off. But they don't and leave it on.
Really? A first? As in the first time Blizzard did what they said they would? Okay, buddy. You're definitely a reasonable human being.
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Honest question. What makes you believe them this time ? What makes this different then the other times they said one thing and did another ?
If they did turn it off as promised it would be a first.
I think RP realms in retail have just as great a need for sense of community.
Sharding is supposed to be turned off. But it's not. It's on and had destroyed a few RP events. Then Blizzard says they will turn it off. But they don't and leave it on.
Really? A first? As in the first time Blizzard did what they said they would? Okay, buddy. You're definitely a reasonable human being.
They really aren't. These are the same people who think that classes get nerfed specifically because they think blizzard is out to get them. They can't be reasoned with.
As for RP realms, I'm kind of surprised, and also not, that whole servers of people think they should have special treatment compared to every other server/group.
I under stand how that could annoying, I do, but there are ways around it.
Further, Classic is classic, not live. They won't have to do anything special to a subset of servers to manipulate sharding just for them. They will just not use it.
If you dont believe them, then why are you even here? You shouldn't be buying products from a company you have no faith or trust in.
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Honest question. What makes you believe them this time ? What makes this different then the other times they said one thing and did another ?
If they did turn it off as promised it would be a first.
I think RP realms in retail have just as great a need for sense of community.
Sharding is supposed to be turned off. But it's not. It's on and had destroyed a few RP events. Then Blizzard says they will turn it off. But they don't and leave it on.
Really? A first? As in the first time Blizzard did what they said they would? Okay, buddy. You're definitely a reasonable human being.
Yes. Are you not aware of past history ?
CRZ - only used in leveling zones. Not in capital cities and not in level cap zones.
Sharding would not be enabled on RP Realms.
There ya go.
Are those 2 statements true today in retail ?
As for RP realms, I'm kind of surprised, and also not, that whole servers of people think they should have special treatment compared to every other server/group.
I under stand how that could annoying, I do, but there are ways around it.
Further, Classic is classic, not live. They won't have to do anything special to a subset of servers to manipulate sharding just for them. They will just not use it.
If you dont believe them, then why are you even here? You shouldn't be buying products from a company you have no faith or trust in.
Whether or not RP servers deserve different treatment, or want it, isn't really the point.
Blizzard promised different treatment and then didn't deliver it.
And the answer is because again, shades of grey exist, despite modern people's best efforts to pretend that they don't. I can disbelieve them on one topic while still believing, overall, that they are trying their best.
The reason I would believe them about "no sharding", but don't believe them about "sharding ONLY for launch", is best expressed with an analogy.
Let's say Blizzard tells me that they want to do an addictive drug. Just a little drugs, for a little bit at launch, then they can stop and never need to do drugs again.
I think it's reasonable for me to say "No, no drugs ever, because after doing a little drugs, your judgement will be impaired and it will not stop there." If they promised me that they would not do any drugs, I would believe them; but if they promised me that they would do just a little drug and then stop, I would not believe them. This is because of my experience with similar situations in the past.
Make sense to you now?
edit: Apparently the name of the specific drug I had chosen as an example was censored. I have now replaced it with a generic "drugs".
If they did turn it off as promised it
They really aren't. These are the same people who think that classes get nerfed specifically because they think blizzard is out to get them. They can't be reasoned with.
Perhaps not. One can hope. I'm blown away by the insanity in these forums.
You do realize that without sharding all those people would have spawned in crossroads and been fighting over the same mobs, making things take forever? You realize it's a demo starting off thousands of players starting in exactly the same spot?
The point of the game isn't to collect bear asses by your lonesome as efficiently as possible. The point is to play with other people. We're here to make sure that people like you who clearly have a bunch invested in the current retail don't monkey up our game.
11/08/2018 03:50 PMPosted by
Vandal
You do realize that without sharding all those people would have spawned in crossroads and been fighting over the same mobs, making things take forever? You realize it's a demo starting off thousands of players starting in exactly the same spot?
The point of the game isn't to collect bear asses by your lonesome as efficiently as possible. The point is to play with other people. We're here to make sure that people like you who clearly have a bunch invested in the current retail don't monkey up our game.
You folks need to stop with demonizing people as 'retail'. I have played the game from beginning to now. That's somehow a bad thing? Get over yourself. People like me are the only reason Classic is only happening. If we all bailed after Classic WoW would be dead.
You're welcome.
Yes multiplayer is part of the game, but having thousands of people fighting over 10 plainstrider spawns is not fun or good game design. I'm not advocating for Sharding. I'm saying children need to grow up and realize that they arent the only people in the world. I'm saying that the first few weeks having sharding will not impact your experience at all, except for positively.
Its not your game that 'people like me' are going to monkey up. Dont tall at someone who has kept this game alive like you have more stake in it.
You folks need to stop with demonizing people as 'retail'. I have played the game from beginning to now. That's somehow a bad thing?
You're missing the point. Everyone should feel welcome. The more the merrier. The problem is when Current WoW players try to change Classic to something it wasn't, and radically alter its fundamental principles. And sharding does just that.
As for RP realms, I'm kind of surprised, and also not, that whole servers of people think they should have special treatment compared to every other server/group.
I under stand how that could annoying, I do, but there are ways around it.
Further, Classic is classic, not live. They won't have to do anything special to a subset of servers to manipulate sharding just for them. They will just not use it.
If you dont believe them, then why are you even here? You shouldn't be buying products from a company you have no faith or trust in.
Whether or not RP servers deserve different treatment, or want it, isn't really the point.
Blizzard promised different treatment and then didn't deliver it.
And the answer is because again, shades of grey exist, despite modern people's best efforts to pretend that they don't. I can disbelieve them on one topic while still believing, overall, that they are trying their best.
The reason I would believe them about "no sharding", but don't believe them about "sharding ONLY for launch", is best expressed with an analogy.
Let's say Blizzard tells me that they want to do an addictive drug. Just a little drugs, for a little bit at launch, then they can stop and never need to do drugs again.
I think it's reasonable for me to say "No, no drugs ever, because after doing a little drugs, your judgement will be impaired and it will not stop there." If they promised me that they would not do any drugs, I would believe them; but if they promised me that they would do just a little drug and then stop, I would not believe them. This is because of my experience with similar situations in the past.
Make sense to you now?
edit: Apparently the name of the specific drug I had chosen as an example was censored. I have now replaced it with a generic "drugs".
No, I dont get your analogy because it's a horrible one. It was a complete waste of time for you to type out.
So you believe Blizzard will do their best, but not that they will keep their word. Got it. I ask again, why are you supporting a company that lies to you? I ask a new question: If you cant trust them to keep their word, why are you bothering to get them to give you their word?
Out of curiosity, please point me to a source where Blizzard says sharding will not exist in current expansion content for RP realms. I'm not saying it doesn't exist, I'm saying I want to see it and make a determination for myself.
11/08/2018 04:05 PMPosted by
Mogar
You folks need to stop with demonizing people as 'retail'. I have played the game from beginning to now. That's somehow a bad thing?
You're missing the point. Everyone should feel welcome. The more the merrier. The problem is when Current WoW players try to change Classic to something it wasn't, and radically alter its fundamental principles. And sharding does just that.
You're right, a few weeks of sharding for a smooth launch will fundamentally alter 'principles'. That's a rational argument.
It certainly wont smooth out thousands of people jumping into the game at the same time in the same spot. Certainly wont help people have an enjoyable first day in the game. It certainly violates a 'principle' of WoW to have overpopulation ruin a game night. WoW had a bad launch and this was part of the problem. Note... problem... not feature.
Sharding will ensure I don't play.
11/08/2018 02:36 PMPosted by
Babana
I thought Northshire is considered the starting Zone. What is actually considered starting zone?
Everything south of Icecrown.
Out of curiosity, please point me to a source where Blizzard says sharding will not exist in current expansion content for RP realms. I'm not saying it doesn't exist, I'm saying I want to see it and make a determination for myself.
Apparently it's a waste of my time to type out explanations to you, so I recommend that you google it yourself.
Again, this video is a staged video where they got people in the zone to converge on one spot. People on one shard invited people from other shards into groups. It's not one shard having 200 people and another having a couple naturally.
This wont be anyone's experience with sharding. This forum is just an echo room.