An RPG without housing

Technically, yes. Everyone except druids.

Druids got a canon ‘home’ in Legion, inside their class hall. So they aren’t homeless.

Ohhhh yes. Collecting cosmetic doodads to decorate my home or apartment in-game would take up an obscene amount of time.

Ya sure let’s transmog our gear. Oh wait you mean sub-par character customizations created by the same people who gave you tier sets.

I bet it’ll be a real hit with people who would rather be playing Dress-up Games or Skyrim. I bet they’ll really enjoy going through various different colors of the same armor around their poorly decorated character as they yell political epithets to one another in Trade chat.

You transmog people need to just go play a game that will give you real character customization not hoping that blizzard gives you some crap version that you will just complain about on the forums.

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This will probably come off as rude and abrasive, but I’m really not trying to be and I’m sorry if I offend anyone. I’m asking a serious question that I legitimately don’t have an answer for.

Why do we need a home? What benefit could it provide for us? Extra farming to do in order to furnish it, in a game where 95% of the player base is complaining about the amount of farming we have to do as is? Another profession or two to level when most players will already just take Alchemy and Engineering?

I’m prepared for a good flaming on this one, but really the only MMO I’ve seen that’s really nailed player owned housing is RuneScape, and later Old-School RuneScape. Ignoring the disaster that is the actual skill you have to level in order to build and use a house, the houses themselves offer both a ton of useful benefits to players who are focused on endgame PvE/PvP AND a variety of mini-games or skilling hotspots that are fun and/or useful to the more casual player base. If WoW could do something that’s more in line with that than, say, FFXIV, I’d totally be on board.

The only problem I have with the FF14 housing is the limited number of plots, with millions of people that isn’t wise.

The only problem I have with the FF14 housing is the limited number of plots, with millions of people that isn’t wise.

I would tend to agree. I joined XIV really late in the game, which means that if I want a house I now have to wait for someone who already has one, in the size that I want and in the area that I like, to decide they don’t want theirs anymore. AND to decide not to offer it up to guildies or friends before just ditching it.

Yes until we are given housing Azerothian heroes are refugees in their own planet. People claim Garrisons or their racial starting areas or other geograhpical areas of Azeroth. I am a refugee in the main city of the Horde. Orgrimmar. Please Blizz give us housing.

Blizzard should add systems to the game that are fun and aren’t directly endgame related. Housing is probably one of the most obvious. It adds its own gameplay loop, and does not need to be updated for more content after its implementation.

If you don’t like playing Raids/Mythic+ WoW is one of the most boring games you can play. Non endgame systems give everyone something to do. Systems like these can increase playtime/retention and remove the need for artificially keep people playing with time gates etc.

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The answer to your question is a thing I like to call “Grind Transference”. MMOs need grinding since players will always consume content way faster than developers could ever produce.

WoW has become so very grindy latelly, with a lot of character development being somehow gated behind some tedious grind needed to expand our play time.

Housing could alleviate that issue simply because it open several new opportunities to implement new grinds that won’t affect character power. That way, the grinds we are used to do could now be faster and better, since now Housing would create several new ways to keep a bunch of players busy.

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Hmm perhaps they could give player housing under guild housing. Give a guild it’s own zone with a guild center then 300 individual player plots on them to be given to main char’s. Have a signpost with the main’s name and then all the alts listed below. They go on their plot and have a suburb like place in which to use a design tool to decorate. They can decorate from a list of all assets and the great news is everyone in the guild can see your work.

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I notice this thing with WoW players where they get handed something like a Garrison system and equate that to what player housing would be like.

Of course anyone that’s ever played another MMO with player housing knows that Garrisons are nothing like player housing in the slightest.

Player housing could enhance and give more reasons to do content, if decorations dropped from content like they do in other MMOs.

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The current dev team just doesn’t have the ability to do it well. that’s why it will never happen, Activision will not spend a dime more than the bare minimum to keep the game alive.

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The current dev team seems to be wanting to push WoW into a more ARPG and step away from the MMO roots.

Why they’re doing this still baffles me, but they seem pretty positive its the best direction for the game.

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Player housing is a complicated issue. Need is a strong word. The short answer (and the one you’re probably looking for) is we don’t. Exactly like we don’t NEED to be playing WoW at all. But we still pay our sub fees or our tokens, and we still play anyway because we want to, not because we need to. WoW is entertainment. If customers are not entertained and engaged, they go away.

Player. Engagement.

The player base fought and argued and begged for years to get transmogrification for our gear. And it’s so insanely popular of a system that almost everyone uses it. Transmog runs are common. The Trial of Style existing at all is a testament to just how loved transmog is. People looooooove to customize themselves, their avatars, and their space. Engagement goes up even more when you can share that space with other people like a stylish trophy.

Yes. Engagement. Work. Craftable furniture. Craftable trophies to place in your home. Arcane lamps made by enchanters. Decorative food and drinks made with cooking. Assign a beloved minipet to wander your apartment. Put up an armor stand to show off your favorite tier set or outfit.

Like transmog, you gotta farm the look if you want the cosmetics.

You’re literally describing the garrison here. They tried it, and it failed horribly. This kind of self-contained design may have worked for RuneScape, but doesn’t for WoW.

Something like what FFXIV has…well… I could see that being welcomed here. A system that is cosmetic in nature, not necessary for “winning the game”, but stands as a kind of personal trophy case and ego waggler for people who invest in them, and who invest in keeping them. Log out for too long, and you can find your home plot has been reclaimed by the game and resold. This gives people a reason, even a small one, to return to the game and keep an active subscription.

The thing is, it can’t be entirely phased like the garrison was if we expect it to work. Decorating a home is a social-adjacent activity. It’s meant to be shown off, so allowing people to visit is important. “Rate my home!” threads are going to explode in popularity. Homes need to be in an apartment type setting, or in a “neighborhood district” with other homes.

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Yes. We are murder hobos. Inevitable. Indomitable. We. Are. The. CATACLYSM!

I’ll say on this note 80%+ of my game time is spent clearing legacy content for goodies and gold, and that if housing were a thing I’d probably have a few thousand extra hours to sink into that too.

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Hmm what if I had a Magic swipe it tool, that I could click on and then highlight a cool thing in the world and transport it via magic portal to my Player housing decorators menu.

Hmmm this would also be nice with transmogs.

(me like chair! /click…I swiped it…take that NPC!!)

It would be interesting but I kinda feel like it would just be a waste of resources.

The only competent part of the dev team this expansion has been the art team, and you think they can’t get player housing right?

All I need is an empty box and the ability to put my stuff in it. Can’t really eff it up

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I used to think that way too until half my Elder Scrolls playtime was spent decorating my various houses.

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