Ah right, I completely spaced his use of mind control on the dwarf when they were coming to take him back home shortly after the quest of the video I linked before, for the mind control https://youtu.be/lERFBo_62Ho?t=31
And the fact the big dome in the cinematic is basically the cinematic version of powerword barrier with healing involved (https://youtu.be/jSJr3dXZfcg?t=226 | https://youtu.be/SUNp48DCXEM?t=255)
Using Varian as an example we have:
His wife dying.
His father, Llane, dying.
His friend Arthas, dying.
His adopted father Lothar, dying.
And his surrogate father Terenas, dying.
He himself is now dead.
So again, proof that people just die alot in WoW. And yes I know it is a meme, but it is a nonsensical one all things considering.
The difference being he wasnât involved with those deaths, whereas Jaina has been a factor in almost every one.
What?? Minus Daelin(and even that is debatable) all of those people died due to THEIR CHOICES! Jaina did not make Arthas use Frostmorne. Jaina did not force her father to restart the faction war. And she definately had nothing to do with Derek dying!
There is a real world analogy that could be made about blaming women for choices men made that easily applies to what you just said.
But if you are looking for someone to blame. I say blame the Horde. All of these character ended up making those choice due to the Horde/former affiliates of the Horde( in Arthas and Kael case)
Why execute Tyrande and Genn? They were just doing what Anduin is too naive to see. Anduin needs to step down as High King of the Alliance forces. The Fourth War ended the way he wanted it to and not the way his followers sought. Vision is a quality of leadership but Tyrande, Genn and Jaina didnât share the same vision with Anduin. The leaders of each allied races joined to fight the Horde and not make peace with them. Division in the Alliance has already begun bcuz Anduin canât lead. Blizzard needs to make an xpac where you can leave the Alliance and join Tyrande.
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Even insubordination implies that theyâre, well, Anduinâs subordinates. They arenât. He only has command over the troops they second to the Alliance, such as the 7th Legion; the rest of their forces are theirs to do with as they please. Their deployment of troops may or may not have been wise, but it was perfectly legal.
At most, they may have been somewhat blunter than would normally be the case in international diplomacy, but they were under a lot of strain at the time; I think thatâs understandable.
Daelin died directly because of his choices. He went to a sovereign city and overthrew its leader by force of arms. He didnât even try for the soft sell; he just sailed up to her keep with a berjillion footmen and took over. Of course Jaina fought to reclaim her throne. You might as well get mad at Uther for standing up to Prince Arthas after he killed his father.
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She walked away from Arthas the second he stopped being her knight in shining armor. She could have froze him from the neck down and had Uther cart him off until he calmed down. Instead she gave him over to Nerâzhul.
Also calm down on saying we are blaming women for what men do. Itâs a video game and we are joking around about a fictional character, a character with a history of being a danger magnet. Get out of here with that garbage.
And Uther couldâve snapped his neck with one swing of those massive hams heâs got. Are you blaming the whole Scourge on Uther, too?
For that matter, not only could Muradin have intervened at several points during the fiasco in Northrend, he wouldnât even have had to use violence. If heâd just told Arthasâs troops the truth about the mercenaries Arthas blamed for burning down their ships, the whole expedition couldâve come to their senses and returned home.
If anything, Muradin really is the most responsible out of any of them, since he actively helped Arthas with his scheming.
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Okay are you getting all this down? Good.
To; King Andy-pantsâŠno no wait thats too childish even for me. Scratch that.
HmmmâŠGOT IT
Lion Cub, son if the last REAL leader we ever had and whom you discrace daily byâŠwhat? Right; too wordy. simplist is best? Okay, then try thisâŠ
TO: Anduin Wrynn, King of Stormwind, Leader of the AllianceâŠwhats that abbreviation again? ââE.T.C.ââ? Got it; use that.
ahem
I, AlfgerdhrâŠwait youâre spelling it wrongâŠHEY! Just because Iâm paying you by the word does NOT mean you simply write down everything Iâm saying!
STOP THAT!
why youâŠ
The rest of this parchment is spattered with some sort of dark-reddish stain
Jaina would have gotten away with it easier.
AnduinâŠnot even a pimple on his fatherâs behind.
What we hadâŠ

âŠand what we wound up with:

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Varian was all talk. He had no intention of ending the Horde, then or any other time.
Best buddies with him and privy to his plans were you? Fascinating.
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The is the saddest thing Iâve ever heard.
#5 Go ask Wrathion on a date already
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Anduin is basically the Great Value brand Varian.
Angel tears vs Loâgoshâs Chosen.
You decide.