AMS Still Not Blocking Silencing Shot/Entrapment

Still getting silenced and immobilized via magical debuffs from hunters while AMS is up.

Should AMS be blocking these skills? Wowhead lists both of them as physical school, not magic.

Just to clarify… Silencing Shot debuff is listed a magic for dispell reasons, but the debuff itself is a physical school effect.

And Entrapment is a physical school effect.

Both of those effects are magical and therefore should be blocked by AMS. AMS prevents any and all magical debuffs from being applied. Plague Strike is a physical ability with a disease effect and the disease effect gets blocked. Entrapment/Silencing Shot are in the same boat.

It absolutely did stop entrapment and always did. It even stopped the Frost Trap ground aura effect from applying. Magical debuff = gets blocked. Same as any magical debuff. That’s like saying AMS didn’t block Freezing Trap and never did. Flat-out false.

I’d check it out on wowhead. They are PHYSICAL school effects.

School Physical

School Physical

School Shadow

School shadow explains why it blocks the disease.

Silence shot and entrapment are both physical, there for it does not block it.

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School Physical

Incorrect. Still blocks Blood Plague. Should block Sshot and Entrapment too. They are both magical debuffs. The delivery does not matter; it is a magical debuff, and that’s what AMS blocks. AMS does not say “unless the delivery method is physical”.

Plague strike applies blood plague. Blood plague - the actual debuff - is shadow.

And? AMS does not specify that it blocks “shadow only”, AMS specifies that it prevents magical debuffs from applying - which Entrapment and Silencing Shot both are. It blocked them in OG Wrath. It does not now. This is a bug.

They are in fact magical because the debuff they apply is magical. The magical debuff is what is not being blocked. The delivery is irrelevant as seen with Plague Strike.

It’s not. Magical debuffs should not apply with AMS up. It is currently. It should not. It was not like this in OG Wrath. It is now. It is therefore a bug in two ways.

They don’t need to be “magical spell effects”, just “magical effects”, which Silencing Shot and Entrapment both are. The debuffs are magic. The debuffs are what are to be blocked. AMS does not specify “only spells”.

“Immune to magic debuffs.”

That’s what the buff reads. Silencing Shot is a magical debuff when applied. Entrapment is a magical debuff when applied.

Your memory is faulty, not mine. Reading comprehension is a thing.

Game mechanic comprehension is also critical.

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And magical debuffs should be blocked by AMS. It’s not hard. It’s how it was in OG wrath.

Dispel type: Magic

So, a magic debuff.

So, something AMS blocks from applying.

So it’s a bug. Ditto w/ Entrapment.

School type is irrelevant when the defensive ability in question prevents all magical debuffs from appyling, “sweetie”. (That’s why the damage goes through and the silence does not).

Maybe reserve the condescending when you actually know what you’re talking about.

Entrapment is a magical debuff. The debuff gets blocked because it’s magic.

Fairly simple, “lmao”.

Illiterate?

Does Hand of Freedom selectively not prevent movement impairing effects based on school? No? Oops!

And is Silencing Shot a magical debuff?

Dispel type is what? A debuff. So it’s a magical debuff.

So AMS should block it.

“preventing application of harmful magical effects.”

Buff tooltip:

Spell damage reduced by 75%.
Immune to magic debuffs.

Is Silencing Shot’s debuff portion a magical effect?

(That’s what “dispel type” is - the debuff)

AMS blocks magical debuffs. It’s not blocking a magical debuff that Silencing Shot applies. That is a bug.

Your fallacious argument of “well mUh PhySiKUL” means that the damage from the shot does not get blocked by AMS. The debuff is magic, therefore that gets blocked.

Ignore everything, just guna delete everything I posted below my original explanation, not worth my time explaining anything anymore to you.

“Delete everything because I have no argument.”

Yep, sounds about right.

No, my argument was fine. You just refuse to accept facts and move goalposts and then call me illiterate. Literally not worth my time explaining when you won’t read it. That’s why I’m deleting, its just not worth my time.
If it ever gets fixed please feel free to tag me and rub it in. Just dont get upset when it never gets fixed, because its not broken.

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Except it wasn’t.

Silencing shot is magical.

AMS blocks all magical debuffs from applying.

You are illiterate and apparently gaslighting. Maybe don’t imply condescension, “sweetie”, then turn around and try to gaslight someone by trying to play the victim. You started being uncivil. Don’t expect others to disregard the disfavor.

Apparently it is because you’re here still dexifying a false point that constantly needs to be amended due to all the holes that keep getting poked into it.

Oh, look, what’s this, the fourth time you’ve contradicted yourself?

Pass. Was fixed back in OG Wrath.

Blizzard doesn’t fix the AH; they’re not here to fix broken ability interactions. That, however, doesn’t mean that it’s correct.